Question: Is it possible that the new Dets were made more to get better scores on 3D Mark and the older verisons run games better? I may be wrong, but seems like I saw that somewhere.
By the way, I've got the 9700 Pro and I am able to run all games with everything maxed, AA@4Xand AF@8 or 16X with no problems, including Unreal II and Splinter Cell. The strange thing is, I can't run Ghost Recon at all. I get 4 or 5 FPS, with all settings at min. Won't even run at min. res. Never have figured out why.
Also, my last video card was a G4 Ti4600 and it ran everything pretty good also. I've always been an nVidia man to, up until I got this computer, and I thing the 9700 Pro is great. I think nVidia and ATi are both good now.