Ok iv'e narrowed it down to these two cards, 1st is the EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 for 80 with a rebate that makes it 45. 2nd is XFX GeForce 8800 GS 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 which is 80 with no rebate. I don't want any suggestions of other cards because i've gone through all of them and theses are the ones i want to choose from. Can anyone tell me which one is better. The 8600 is clocked at Memory:2000MHZ Core:675MHz and the 8800gs is clocked at core:580MHz Memory:1400 the 8800 also has 96 stream processors where as the 8600 has 32. Can someone please give me some insight on this. I usually play games at around 1280x1024 but can sacrifice down to 1024x768. Thank you.