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Why the hell would you carry a gun with you all the time, worse yet, hide it? This is why so many americans die because of guns. Even countries like Pakistan have lower homicide rates.
Americans die because they carry guns? You do realize that statistics have shown that people with concealed carry permits are the most law abiding group, Including the police force(Results from Florida in 2013)? Also, the homicide rate is much higher in "gun-free" zones, because criminals willing to kill someone are also willing to break the law and get a gun.

Chicago been giving out consealed carry permits for about 3 years now(I know GOP talking points still don't seem to know that) , and it hasn't stopped shiat. The problem is that people in the states with lax laws on the guns just sell them and report them stolen to people in more gun controlled states.
 
Why the hell would you carry a gun with you all the time, worse yet, hide it? This is why so many americans die because of guns. Even countries like Pakistan have lower homicide rates.
Americans die because they carry guns? You do realize that statistics have shown that people with concealed carry permits are the most law abiding group, Including the police force(Results from Florida in 2013)? Also, the homicide rate is much higher in "gun-free" zones, because criminals willing to kill someone are also willing to break the law and get a gun.

Chicago been giving out consealed carry permits for about 3 years now(I know GOP talking points still don't seem to know that) , and it hasn't stopped shiat. The problem is that people in the states with lax laws on the guns just sell them and report them stolen to people in more gun controlled states.

LOL, nice try. You practically need to have an alderman in your immediate family to get one of those permits, which last I heard had an 18 month waiting list. But by all means, keep spewing easily disprovable bulls**t - every time you resort to lies and distortion it just shows how phony your ideology is.
 
Why the hell would you carry a gun with you all the time, worse yet, hide it? This is why so many americans die because of guns. Even countries like Pakistan have lower homicide rates.
Is this what you do all day, sit around sucking your thumb worrying whether someone you've never met, aren't related to, and don't really care about, will get shot? It seems like a wasted life. It's more like some fantasy righteous indignation for you to spew around at Techspot for the attention.

I think you need to research better. when it comes to gun related murders Pakistan is lower than the US which has an average of 4.5 from 100k people.
I'll tell you, it's a God damned good thing the "tech support" people in Pakistan are thousands of miles away from America, and not faced with the angry armed Americans they supposedly help.....:eek:

All of you are insane. Any civilised country keeps guns from reaching civilians. Only the US encourages people to buy guns for "protection". Why do they need protection? Because it's impossible to keep track of so many guns and you end up with situations where even kids have illegal guns.
What should be done is a massive (and expensive) clean sweep of the country. Otherwise we'll keep seeing news where kids shoot others or worse yet school shootings.
The wild west doesn't exist anymore.
Yeah, I think if you're going to yap about "civilization", first you should learn how to spell it. As for your "massive sweep", perhaps when you're declared "emperor of America", you can schedule that.

Moving on, some little troll thinks the US should declare martial law, then send out the army to search every property in the country by force and illegally seize all weapons? Good luck with that. BTW, doesn't Pakistan allow terrorists like Bin Laden to set up shop wherever they please? Is there some kind of "gentleman's agreement" in force? You know, like if you're going to blow up a school or an airport, do it outside of Pakistan so our murder rate doesn't reflect it.

PS: davislane1, the fact that the US is even mentioned together with some of the worst places to live in the world just proves my point. In Ethiopia, 2-3 years ago people were dying of hunger after 2 years of some of the worst drought ever seen by them. The overall mortality rate was 7.4 out of 10,000 per day back then. Human rights there barely function there as they constantly in conflict or near conflict.
If you live here in the US, you should probably just shut your mouth and leave. After all, 300,000,000 weren't put here to pander to you. Hard for you to hear, I know.

In some countries in Africa, the army goes around raping women, spreading AIDS, which without medicines kills also. It just doesn't show up in "gun violence statistics". What should we do about that? Wait I know, dump massive amounts of foreign aid into those s***holes.

I think it's absolutely hilarious that you would compare your country's homicide rate to that of Pakistan. The only thing in your comment funnier than that is the line "I carry a gun because im an American citizen and I am afforded the right to" that just speaks for itself, so I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. What America needs is a law that *requires* everyone to carry a gun at all times, and all disputes, disagreements, and arguments shall be settled with a gun fight. It would be totally awesome. Let the problem take care of itself.
Now you're talkin'!(y)
Especially shooting black people, like: Oh I thought you were gonna kill someone, I'm sorry for the 6 warning shots in the back.
Wow! Are you really the "God of Pain"? Impressive.

Now you know when something like that happens y'all wul be riotin' for dayz. Since a town or city doesn't burn down every other day, I guess that doesn't happen as often as you mouth off about it.

So yo beez da, "GodofPain? huh? You a big time rap artist? See, I can stereotype you right back.:p

(BTW, I love to write in dialect. Something to keep in mind).
 
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Yeah, I think if you're going to yap about "civilization", first you should learn how to spell it. As for your "massive sweep", perhaps when you're declared "emperor of America", you can schedule that.
It's the British spelling. Please don't shoot me for the correction.

(BTW, I love to write in dialect. Something to keep in mind).
But intolerant of others who wish to write in their version (original) of the English language...
 
It's the British spelling. Please don't shoot me for the correction.
For me, "civilisation", amounts to a squiggly red line. Now, if you're going to run your yap as much as Pu?? does about America, you have the correction coming, along with the rest of what I posted.
But intolerant of others who wish to write in their version (original) of the English language...
I think you've somewhat managed to overlay something I said to one member, with something I said to another. And while "American English", British English", and "Australian English", might be considered "dialects", I was referring to something quite different, something I'm quite intolerant of, something I've had more than enough of, and something I have no intention whatsoever of apologizing for. You know, the musical dialect where all the words in the "poetry", begin with an "M", an "F", or an "N".

What these geniuses have yet to figure out is, it's those law abiding "straw buyers", who put guns in the cans of criminals. It's not some bizarre bunch of crap about searching and seizing everyone's guns in the country. Tame your greed people. How do you think our "9-11" came about? Because some dumb, greedy, southern yokels, decided to take some terrorists money to teach them to fly jetliners without being able to land them. I can almost hear the conversation in the office of the flight school, "theese dumb brown fools wunna giv us they money, and we don evun hafta teach em how to land". "Sheet, Ah don't kare wut colah dey is, they muney be green".........BOOM (I can hear those turbines over-speeding in the dive from here).
 
This sums up mentality of people who like the idea...

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Are you picking Ethiopia, Pakistan and Brasil because of their excellent track record on law enforcement? Or because picking any first world country won't make the US look very pretty?

Why there's 6 times less murders then then the worst country in the world, that really proves the point of how brilliantly the US is doing.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Netherlands/United-States/Crime

Our only gun deaths are criminals settling bills amongst eachother. Other then law enforcement noone's allowed to carry a gun cept for a couple of sports shooters. Unfortunately it's quite easy for people to get their hands on weaponry if they really want to. This however doesn't lead to a substantial amount of deaths of people who couldn't defend themselves because they weren't allowed to carry a gun.
 
What a splendid notion. I'm all for disguising weapons as everyday objects....I have Patent Pending on a gun disguised as a toilet roll holder. Constipated? Not any more. Or how about my new Airwick air freshener with fragrant nerve gas? It's a brave new world.
 
Are you picking Ethiopia, Pakistan and Brasil because of their excellent track record on law enforcement? Or because picking any first world country won't make the US look very pretty?

Why there's 6 times less murders then then the worst country in the world, that really proves the point of how brilliantly the US is doing.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Netherlands/United-States/Crime

Our only gun deaths are criminals settling bills amongst eachother. Other then law enforcement noone's allowed to carry a gun cept for a couple of sports shooters. Unfortunately it's quite easy for people to get their hands on weaponry if they really want to. This however doesn't lead to a substantial amount of deaths of people who couldn't defend themselves because they weren't allowed to carry a gun.

I chose those countries because it completely disproves the idea that fewer legal guns correlates to a safer environment. It doesn't.

I hardly ever compare 1st world to 1st world because of differences in record keeping. The U.S. records all gun incidents as gun incidents. Verious European agencies only record closed/"confirmed" cases. So, you get shot in America, it goes into the statistic books. You get shot in the UK, it goes into the open case files.

**Trigger warning**

There is also the multiethnic nature of the US to consider. We have millions more blacks and hispanics than the Netherlands, demographics that statistically commit far more violent and non-violent crime. When you filter for race (subtract those two groups), the crime rates (including murder) drop off a cliff.

Someone should tell those Brits that gun bans are supposed to make their country more civilized. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
 
Well that didn't take long to explode into a political argument...

Anyway, not sure how useful this is except for people who want to carry a gun in places that check to make sure you aren't carrying. Two rounds isn't going to do much anyway unless you hit'em where it counts, and even still you have to unfold the thing to fire it. Who wants to cowboy duel? I'll carry a Glock with two rounds and you carry this thing, we'll see who gets two rounds off first.

Fastest way to get a thread going on the internet: gender equality, guns, taxes.

As for the weapon... it isn't intended for a gun fight. In most confrontations one or two shots is enough to scare off an attacker. The problem with this weapon is the fact that you have to set it up to use it. It has no utility over a standard sidearm, other than (ironically) drawing attention.
 
Sweep 3+ million square miles for guns...HA! Some people don't think at all before spouting their nonsense. Such a mandate would mark the beginning of the 2nd American Revolution.
 
For me, "civilisation", amounts to a squiggly red line. Now, if you're going to run your yap as much as Pu?? does about America, you have the correction coming, along with the rest of what I posted.
Geez, to be honest I just wanted to point out that the spelling was not strictly incorrect since so many Americans seem so culture blind to anything beyond the end of their own noses. I even attempted to do it with a tongue in cheek "don't shoot me" to try and keep it light.

Can I suggest you contact a physician and see about a prescription for a maximum safe dosage of happy pills and have a nice lie down in a quiet dark room. Breathe... nice deep relaxing breaths!

As to guns and America. Sure it may well be illegal guns that are used in many of the atrocities, but it's not like there is are factories making "legal" and "illegal" firearms (the ones where they file the serial numbers off in the production line). If they are less available/accessible in general I'm positive there would be a substantial reduction in the gun crime related figures.
 
I take it you are black, since you are pulling the race card.
Why would I have to be black?. I just know that that US cops are more agressive towards black people if they seem suspicious and I said that in a joking way...

Wow! Are you really the "God of Pain"? Impressive.

Now you know when something like that happens y'all wul be riotin' for dayz. Since a town or city doesn't burn down every other day, I guess that doesn't happen as often as you mouth off about it.

So yo beez da, "GodofPain? huh? You a big time rap artist? See, I can stereotype you right back.:p

(BTW, I love to write in dialect. Something to keep in mind).

Good news everyone, I'm a poet and I didn't know it, but I'm not a rapper. I'm just an ordinary white man, but watch out because I'm no ordinary white man.
 
Someone should tell those Brits that gun bans are supposed to make their country more civilized. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.

'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'

Sensationalist rags of news papers are always great sources of accurate useful information.
Easily compared statistics like "Murders by gun" and "Murders by knife" are fair as the means of establishing cause of death by each particular tool are pretty definitive. In fact figures show that you are more likely to be stabbed in the UK than the US. But without the compared crimes having identical definitions in every country in the world, and identical methodologies for categorization of them and the severity that is required before being officially reported the article by the Daily Fail is worthless, as is the majority of the manure that spills forth from its pages. For example acts such as slapping someone in the face would be reported as "Assault" in the UK, but unlikely to be classified as such in the US.
 
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I think it's absolutely hilarious that you would compare your country's homicide rate to that of Pakistan. The only thing in your comment funnier than that is the line "I carry a gun because im an American citizen and I am afforded the right to" that just speaks for itself, so I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. What America needs is a law that *requires* everyone to carry a gun at all times, and all disputes, disagreements, and arguments shall be settled with a gun fight. It would be totally awesome. Let the problem take care of itself.

I find it absolutely hilarious that you don't read all the comments in a thread, especially the one I responded to, before you open your mouth and say something. Maybe we should have background checks for *****s wanting to exercise their first amendment rights (free speech for all you Non-Americans). I compared to Pakistan because Pulu compared U.S. to Pakistan.

Won't dignify my statement that I have an entitlement under the U.S. constitution, guess you just can't come up with one that hasn't been countered over and over and over and over.......

Ah yes, then you resort to hyperbole, good comeback. Maybe my country should stop spending money maintaining the largest naval fleet on the planet and maintaining bases full of troops overseas and lets the Russians and/or Chinese and/or ISIS do what they please with you. You'll be crying on the internet for gun loving American crazies to come save your ***, that is if you are allowed to get on the internet.
 
Sensationalist rags of news papers are always great sources of accurate useful information.

Can you actually refute the information or is disqualification the extent of your position?

Also: slapping someone in the U.S. is classified as assault. Doubly so if you slap a female.
 
Sooo, I pre-ordered 3 of em. Wife, daughter, myself.

I'm not sure why the controversy here. These are almost perfectly priced Christmas gifts. Gender free. Expensive enough so you don't look cheap. Thoughtful enough because you're thinking of the future welfare of the person you're giving it to. (hmmm... should probably get a couple extras for short notice party gifts, beats the hell out of a bottle of wine.)

Thank you Rob for solving this year's Christmas Gift list.
 
Why would I have to be black?. I just know that that US cops are more agressive towards black people if they seem suspicious and I said that in a joking way...
Well, I fully agree the police are more aggressive towards "African Americans". (*) OTOH, in some cases, that's just prudent.
Good news everyone, I'm a poet and I didn't know it, but I'm not a rapper. I'm just an ordinary white man, but watch out because I'm no ordinary white man.
I've long campaigned for a :rolleyes: emoticon, to no avail. Therefore, it pretty much depends on a member's mood, to precipitate whichever response seems appropriate. Also please note my usage of "poet" ("poetry"), was encased in "shock quotes", indicating, (in most circumstances), the opposite or sarcastic usage of a word.

As for you being, "no ordinary white man", I'm fairly certain you easily exceed your own self established mythological expectations of powers and virtues. As for the rest of us, (and of societies in general), we'll be the judge of that..... :rolleyes:

(*) Due to the civil rights act of 1963, you no longer have "freedom of speech", with respect to naming people of color what you will. They're they only people who routinely refer to each other in the basest of terms. And they just revel in it, because other races aren't afforded the same luxury.
 
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Geez, to be honest I just wanted to point out that the spelling was not strictly incorrect since so many Americans seem so culture blind to anything beyond the end of their own noses. I even attempted to do it with a tongue in cheek "don't shoot me" to try and keep it light.
"Keeping it light" works better on lighter topics. Good pun though. I must have missed it, what with it being 6:00 AM here in the "colonies", and me being under the influence of "happy pills". But no, I'm not going to save you enough to get high, what with them being prescription medicines. That would be like being a "straw buyer", which is a very low form of life, be it for firearms or psychotropic substances. :p
As to guns and America. Sure it may well be illegal guns that are used in many of the atrocities, but it's not like there is are factories making "legal" and "illegal" firearms (the ones where they file the serial numbers off in the production line). If they are less available/accessible in general I'm positive there would be a substantial reduction in the gun crime related figures.
Well, we need our guns, and have since 1776, (IIRC).

Since we've normally gotten along well over the years, I hope you'll react with a bit of restraint when I say, "stop spouting bulls***, nonsense, and propaganda. To hear people like you talk, you can walk into the corner "bodega" and grab a pistol with your lottery ticket.

In the US, I'm pretty sure a fairly high percentage of "illegal guns" are obtained by "illegal means".

For example, gun store robberies, straw buyers, hijacked shipments, and burglaries, to name a few. And before I forget, guns being smuggled back into the US after having been sold abroad.
 
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I have to say it... Only the Americans can come out with something like this. Damn! They're one gun happy nation.
Well, before we became this "civilized", (and developed antibiotics), wars were fought with "cold blue steel" knives and swords. And face it. if you've ever gotten a paper cut, you can imagine how painful that would have been. Then there's the amputation post injury from the resultant infection. (See. "American Civil War"). As I so cynically perceive it, a nice warm bullet is a fitting end for social misfits. Should you survive, then we can run up hospital, nursing, and after care protocols pushing you around in a wheelbarrow post facto for the rest of your worthless life. But really, wasn't it great fun peddling smack and gun fighting with opposing gangs while it lasted?

As far as all the hysteria about "children being shot", it goes like this; trust me,when welfare entitlements are at stake, those "grieving parents" will eagerly produce more offspring to keep them checks a' comin'.

It's the kind of politically incorrect topic nice people don't talk about. But then, as you're likely well aware, people claim I'm not a "nice guy".....:D (I of course, beg to differ, but not to the point of violence :) ).

From what can tell, the fattest, ugliest, and stupidest among us, are doing most of the reproductive work as we march forward into the "Idiocracy". That starts when everyone has all the rights they could possibly dream of, and has to do absolutely nothing to work for them, protect them, or defend them.
 
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....[ ]....Also: slapping someone in the U.S. is classified as assault. Doubly so if you slap a female.
Yup! They're even likely to turn it into a federal case, should you give them the tiniest or flimsiest reason whatsoever to turn it into a "hate crime".
 
I read several detailed sites disproving the crap the dail mail and others say about UK being 2nd most violent place in Europe but that can be found with an easy search by anyone:

https://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/

http://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/violent-crime-us-abroad/

How about the same rag posting this -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3268965/Police-forces-create-false-surge-crime-figures-recording-single-complaint-receive-public.html

As I said sensationalism, one minute one of the highest violent crime countries in Europe, next it's the police faking a spike in crime....
 
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I read several detailed sites disproving the crap the dail mail and others say

I'll ask again.

Can you actually author a substantive argument for your position or is disqualification all you can muster?

"My sources are better!" isn't an argument.
 
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