I'm tired of this political correctness bullshit. The reason why Amazon is a mostly white company is because the MAJORITY of people in the United States are in fact WHITE. Thus the majority of the labor force will be white.... I need to get off this planet.
Amazon diversity report reveals a mostly white male workforce
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dividebyzero
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Ah, now you're just trolling.
"Acceptable" in the instance I was referring to, was referencing a point that no public outrage occurred because the dissenting voices had no widespread platform to be heard. I might also point out that the Klan was an accepted part of U.S. society around the same time.
Here's a few other pejorative instances from the same timeframe. Are you also endorsing their current use because they had widespread acceptance at the time?
captaincranky
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Well, no I'm not. I honestly don't find "redskin" to be pejorative. Given the context surrounding its origin, I find it to be a term of "grudging admiration".
Yes, in fact I think we could use more advertising just like it. There's a term for that, it's called, "white backlash".
You really can't imagine how fed up I am listening to what passes for "music" these days, and how it passes as testimonial for the emotional, moral, and mental development of an entire race.
Every passing car seems to blast out "the 'N' word" with alarming volume and increasing frequency. Although I have to admit, it does seem to somewhat unnervingly amuse and empower the 5th grade dropout crack dealers around my way
I further don't understand why the owner of a NBA basketball team can be forced to sell it vis a vis, "for racist comments". Why on earth would I need to like you? I sign your million dollar a year paychecks, and I don't additionally feel a pressing need to invite you to my house for dinner.
If the checks bounced, then you could call me a racist.
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dividebyzero
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I would have actually banned him for gross stupidity bearing in mind the catalogue of complaints filed against him, so the comments were just the latest of Sterling's transgressions - and an awesome way to torpedo the franchises image and merchandizing. This IS the guy that paid off his victims in sexual harassment suits, and this IS the guy that did crap like this:
Likewise, I don't think that accepting a salaried position gives the boss carte blanche to sexually harass the staff (if not a major concern of the NBA players it was rather more so for the female staff)
Judging by Donald Sterling's grand visions, I think he'd quite happily turn back the clock to an Antebellum era. I think he'd be more than happy not cutting cheques at all.
All in all, your defence of Sterling seems an odd choice of support, given that he subverted the course of justice by using his influence to get a homicide case against his kid quashed. Shooting someone in the back as they were running away is grounds for self defence if you have enough money. At least keeping him out of jail gave the kid ample time to kill himself with drugs. Guns and drugs - seems like something that should be the province of 5th grade dropouts listening to rap, no?
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captaincranky
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Quite frankly, Magic Johnson's locker room excesses put those of Mr. Sterling's to shame. In fact Magic's antics earned him a big plus ++, in the HIV column.
While Magic Johnson is a viral, oops I mean "virile" stud, Sterling is for all intents and purposes, a dirty, old, and most likely senile, impotent, man.
And yes, I agree that because you sign the paychecks that doesn't give you carte blanche to sexually harass the help, but you certainly shouldn't have to like them, their race, creed , national origin, or have them over for dinner, just to get them to do their jobs either.
If Sterling's opinion were as far as it went, then he shouldn't be punished.
I'm judging the matter solely on the last issue If that was "the last straw", in a series of events in his fall from power, then the press should have cast a wider net in their coverage. TBH, professional basketball doesn't interest me in the least, and that precipitates my lack of background information with respect to Sterling's prior acts. Which BTW, I certainly don't condone
All I know is, people were suggesting that Magic Johnson be given the team. Since Johnson is an HIV positive serial adulterer, and a sexual predator, I'm thinking his image, got cleaned up quite a bit by virtue of his ability to dunk a basketball, and nothing more. Which makes the public's perception of him as a "victim", patently ludicrous.
As far as a longing for the Antebellum South goes, you should spend a few months here in my neighborhood. That would ramp that yearning for the old south up in you as well. At least if you could abide the women's hoop skirts and petticoats.
As to the guns and drugs point you bring up, I'll answer that with a story about HIV. Once upon a time "AIDS", was called, "GRIDS", (Gay Related Immune Deficiency Syndrome). Well, political correctness dictated that as soon as one case showed up in the straight population, they were forced to change the name. Through the decades, white teens have admired and emulated black teens. The underlying belief being that blacks were simply "cooler" than the uptight, white, very inhibited Caucasian crowd. In the same way that AIDS fanned out from the zero patient gay community to the population at large, the hip hop culture has fanned out from the ghetto to middle class suburban America, and brought the perverse preoccupation with guns,drugs, and constant vulgarity in music, along with it If that weren't at least substantially true, laws wouldn't have been modified to confiscate daddy's car, when junior comes to the hood to cop.
I realize that crime and decadence transcends racial boundaries, but some theories of crime have our worst social issues fanning out from a central point, namely from predominantly black, large cities. I'm sure I could go on for pages, but suffice to say that more violence is exported from the ghetto, than middle class America imports back into it. And no, I don't consider affluent drug and arms dealers who import such things back to the ghetto, "middle class" in any reasonable sense of the status.
The same things could be observed and attached to any number of populations, minority or otherwise, in that poverty and the resentment of it, being a spawning ground for violence and drug addition.
So, Sterling's son's behavior would have been "overlooked", had it been undertaken by a ghetto youth, and also quite a bit more prevalent crime in the ghetto as well. Trust me, here in the hood, very few take the full ride for murder, and a fair number get away with it as well.
Keep in mind we had some of the same issues with Buddy Ryan's kid (s?). Maybe it's the pervasive atmosphere of violence and competition surrounding pro sports that triggers the drugs and gun play. I'm not exactly sure where he (they?) were getting their narcotics. I doubt it was the team doctor. Or perhaps, these "sport brats", are grossly ignored and overindulged while daddy gives all his love and affection to his team.
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p51d007
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More crap "PC" nonsense. I don't care what color you are, what sex you are or any of that other nonsense.
I want THE BEST working for me. If you are green, have 3 eyes, but are the absolute best for my business, you get the job! The problem we have today is that there is a majority of people now, that believe it is someone else's fault, if they don't get a job, or a raise, and they go running to the mommy government to make the bad person stop it, and give them an ice cream cone.
I want THE BEST working for me. If you are green, have 3 eyes, but are the absolute best for my business, you get the job! The problem we have today is that there is a majority of people now, that believe it is someone else's fault, if they don't get a job, or a raise, and they go running to the mommy government to make the bad person stop it, and give them an ice cream cone.
No, just out of this country which is being ruined by demagogues.
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Whoever the employees are, if they are doing the work, what exactly is the issue? (That it's somehow "wrong" to be white and employed by Amazon?)
captaincranky
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Dude, get with the program. These days it's wrong to white and be employed by anyone.
MilwaukeeMike
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I seriously think techspot has a contest to see who can get the most comments in their articles. Shawn was the author of Microsoft's CEO pay, and he's got to be cleaning the floor with the other writers in the comments counts. It certainly would explain articles like this.
MilwaukeeMike
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What everyone ignores from that argument is context. When 'redskin' is used to ridicule someone it's racist, but if it's used as a symbol of a warrior, then its' not. I'm married to a native (Canadian, not American) and her family is not insulted by the Redskins team name. In fact, they laugh at it, and say 'dumb Americans and their political correctness.'
Then I tell them that Marquette University used to be called the Warriors (they had a Native American Logo) and they changed their name to Golden Eagles just IN CASE anyone MIGHT be offended. Then they really laugh at us.
I'm actually glad they're not upset that we're removing all the toughness from their heritage. Native American's were bad @$$. it's why we call it the Blackhawk and Apache helicopter after all and not the Pratt and Whitney 8425 or something like that. Sooner or later they're going to push back and realize that by getting rid of all the team names we're making them look like complainers.
captaincranky
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Well then, no one with either a smattering of common sense, or an IQ above that of a high functioning imbecile, should think that anyone is demeaning a pro football team, because they actually have "red skins".
Accordingly, the "brave warrior" usage and connotation of "redskins" attaches automatically, and all the politically correct bullsh!t harangue , is therefore rendered automatically null, void, & moot as well..
Now what would be ironic, on an epic, grandiose level, is if the Washington Redskins published diversity statistics announcing they were, "underrepresented in the number of Native Americans in their workforce"....
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tipstir
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Wow! Amazon has so many international people working for them for less so they can gain higher profit shares. Mostly third world countries handle their Customer Care or Customer Service Rep. This is how business is. It shouldn't matter who or whom is running things though. It started with one guy out of his garage selling books online and look at Amazon today!
To me who going to advance and how they advance is the question. Not all the time fair process. If you have the right people in there they're run the company the way they want and push their co-workers ahead of those who are really doing the work.
Like that Undercover BOSS show, took that CEO out behind the chair to see what going on his or her company. Then the CEO can take someone who wouldn't have a heck of change to move up in his or her present role for the same company. But now has a chance because the CEO had worked undercover with his or her employee.
All these charts don't help anyone except make others in these companies worry about getting that promotion or not. Or even yet fired!
To me who going to advance and how they advance is the question. Not all the time fair process. If you have the right people in there they're run the company the way they want and push their co-workers ahead of those who are really doing the work.
Like that Undercover BOSS show, took that CEO out behind the chair to see what going on his or her company. Then the CEO can take someone who wouldn't have a heck of change to move up in his or her present role for the same company. But now has a chance because the CEO had worked undercover with his or her employee.
All these charts don't help anyone except make others in these companies worry about getting that promotion or not. Or even yet fired!
dividebyzero
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I don't think any sane person would actually believe Dan Snyder's word regardless.Now what would be ironic, on an epic, grandiose level, is if the Washington Redskins published diversity statistics announcing they were, "underrepresented in the number of Native Americans in their workforce"....
The Washington Redskins applied the name in honour of William Dietz their first coach who claimed he was Native American but was in fact of German extraction...so basically, the whole thing is based on a lie - although I note Dietz did manage a .500 record with the team, so irrespective of his flexible attitude towards heritage, he's fared much better than the latest crop of HC's (Spurrier, Gibbs, Zorn, and The Orange Man Shanahan, and Jay Gruden).
captaincranky
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Remember though, it's not how you play the game, but whether or not you're willing to take the scalps of the opposing team that makes you a "Redskin"....
(And here I sit, at home, laughing uproariously at the vulgarity and tastelessness of my own humor).
Or as the children are wont to say, "ROFLMAO"....
dividebyzero
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I think what makes you a Redskin (of theRemember though, it's not how you play the game, but whether or not you're willing to take the scalps of the opposing team that makes you a "Redskin"....
This is the team that benched QB Brad Johnson after he'd won them the NFC East title in order to install an over the hill Jeff George (a Dan Snyder move) - who looked bad even when compared to the hiring of a barely interested Donovan McNabb for $78 million ($40m guaranteed) in 2010.
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