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AMD 64 3200+ wont cool down!

Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by james_k1988, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    I recently got alot of new equipment for my system, which included a AMD 64 3200+. Now i have checked over the net, and apparently this thing can run at fairly low temps, with resonable fan speeds. Ment to be one of its main features. Well i think mine is excluded from that lol Trying to get this thing to drop temp, it like trying to teach a dog to drive

    Now from what i read its usual fan speed sits around 1500rpm sometimes lower, with a temp of around 40-45c. Well mine sits at around 50-55c with a rpm of 3200 . Im sometimes blessed with a 49c lol And no its not overclockd in the least, i only built up the machine 2 days ago

    The reason i want this fixed so badly is that the otehr morning there, my room wos bloody freezing. and i turned on teh computer an the thing fired up like a shot. Xp loaded dead quick, an everything seemed to run alot better (the way its ment 2 :p). i went an checked the cpu temp an it was at 45c . I dunno bout you but i dont like the idea of making my room -7c for the computer to run better :p .Dont get me wrong its running fine, but i just want to get the most out of it. Plus i dont know why it has to run so hot all the time (it ALWAYS hangs about 50-55c)

    Any ideas anyone? Might be a fiver in it for ya :angel:

    My specs are as follows:

    MSI RS480M2-IL ATI XPRESS 200 Micro ATX (Socket 939)
    AMD 64 3200+ (VENICE)
    1024 Ram
    Radeon x800le HIM

    an heres a screenshot of what everest is sayin (i tried 3 other progs, all say the same) http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1963/fan0ne.jpg
  2. blue_dragon Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    same here except im running an amd xp 3000+
    it might be the form factor: micro atx (not enough circulation)(pretty crowded if yuor case is also micro atx)
    i really dont know

    mine sits at 60 C idle

    try to get an atc mobo with a atx case
  3. blue_dragon Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    i meant atc mobo not atc :knock: :angel:
  4. blue_dragon Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    arg
    ATX
    i cant spell today
  5. AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    Is the Heatsink attached with a thermal pad or thermal paste? If it is the latter, you might want to reapply.
  6. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    yea it came with a thermal pad on the bottom of the fan
     
  7. Uber Noob Newcomer, in training

    max die temp is rated at 70C and your well under that i say screw it because by the time it starts to wear at your processor it will be time to upgrade, people worry bout temps too mutch in my opinion they way i look at it is overclock it. and when it loses stability turn the bus down a touch then do an extensive benchmarks to test stability more, because in the age of processors with this mutch muscle the limitation is the front side bus and not the processor no matter how fast you chip is if it cant access ram fast it wont work at its full potential. bandwith owns and cold chips suck.
  8. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    yea but i still dont want it running as hot, espeecailly when i saw how it ran when it was at 45c. An yes i would like to oc it but im afraid itll jump up in temp so im no goin there yet lol , Plus this things ment to run nice and cool, yet is running hotter than my old processor which wos oc'd. An this one is alot better (old one wos a sempron 2600+ soc A) . I jus wanna drop the temp at least some.

    Does something need to mybye be enabled in the mobo ? although i doubt it whought it may as well check eh lol puke:

    oh and how fast can the fan go without bloing up lol cuase i had a feeling that 3300rpm wos a little fast (and at that speed the thing should be alot cooler) :eek:
  9. PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 829

    you can try applying some thermal grease instead of using that TIM. But that shouldnt make any real difference. You'll probably need a better heatsink to dissapate more heat.
    I recently installed the Thermaltake CL-P0114 on a system I built with an AMD 4800+ and this guy runs temps about 40c in a poorly ventilated cabinet
    [IMG]
    This sucker is HUGE!
  10. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    well i dhuldnt really have to buy something new when its supposed to run at a half decent temp with what its got lol but yea i could try addin sum heatsink on. Would i take teh pad off then add the paste? Or jus put it underthe paste

    Although i was thining. since the processor is new is there a chance it might jus need a while to like get settled in ?(cant think of anoterh way of saying it lol)
  11. PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 829

    In all likelyhood the difference of 45c and 50c didn't cause the speed increase you noticed. And you only use a pad OR paste, not both!

    It's possible that your hard disks are heating up and causing your issues. Hard disks tend to be forgotten when it comes to cooling and they do get hot.
  12. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    No i dont thinkt the hard drives are going to hot, i remember checking that when i checked the processor. (same prog) But i will double check when i get home, im at college at the moment :cool: But as for teh fan speed, is 3200rpm a safe speed for it?
  13. PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 829

    That really depends on the fan itself. Some fans are rated up to 6000rpm's, others not so much. My guess is that its fine.
  14. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    Yea teh hard drives are fine, quite cool actaully. Also im noticeing my Ambivient (guessing its the overall system temp) is only 33c , so it seems to be only the processor. Although there is something else thats high which i dont hav a scooby what it is, Although it says its 113c ! :dead:

    Here i print screened it so u can see for yourself. its a program called "Speedfan"

    http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/9272/hightemp2cs.jpg

    im thinking this may hav summit 2 do with it lol although no idea what it is lol ne ideas?
  15. AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    anything running at that temps is going to have problems. But i wonder what it is...it might very well be a conflict with the program, (but speedfan is pretty good) Id use the temps you get from BIOS as the most accurate.
  16. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    Right i went into the Speedfan config an found it it tells me where it is, what chipset. But its still left me without a clue lol heres wot it says

    http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5832/remote3ky.jpg

    (for those who may have first seen this thread look at last post pic to see what this relates to)

    As you can see it seems to be in the same place an address as the cpu. Seems a bit dodgey lol :knock: ne ideas what "bit" that is?

    (o i checked my bios, it tells me my cpu is 53c with a fan speed of 3000 (apx) )
  17. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    It is actaully getting worse. Its been running all day fair enuf but its at 59c :eek:
  18. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    Right after i saw it hit that temp i took teh com out an had a look at the cpu. Now for the record before i put teh fan on the cpu there was something on the bottom, A square of grey sticky stuff which i assumed wae the thermal pad (even although it was really really thin)

    Now i took teh fan off teh cpu there an it looks like its dissolved to be honest lol
    There were jus bits of that grey sticky stuff o teh under of the fan, an on the cpu. I could read teh writing on teh cpu as well it wos that bad lol. But i put some heatsink paste on it ( Unick Silicon Heat Transfer Compound) an it seems to have brought it back down its not sitting at 48-50c which is better than nuthin a guess. But do ya agree this is the problem?

    If so let me know an ill jump down to town tomorrow an get some. Thing is ive never had to much experiance with paste to be honest. I usually jus grab whats there out my drawer an slap a little bit on. Its teh squeezy stuff 2 :angel: . Although after looking it seems tehrs a few types, some better than otehrs (an they seem to look like needles lol ). Or i could just get a pad. Any recomendations? :rolleyes:

    *EDIT* Its been goin for about half an hour an teh processors startin 2 get warm again , climbed up to 52-53c :( an then back down. I think its jus deliberatly annoyin me lol *
  19. sebastep Newcomer, in training

    I have the same CPU and mine stays at 36-38 degrees in idle and goes to 45 in full load (once it reached 49 after extensive full load). Box cooling, no oc. I think that your problem is the heat transfer from the CPU to the heatsink. You should read the following instructions and do it again:
    http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_big2.htm
    Good luck :wave:
  20. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    i did try it m8 but i think i doen it wrong, im not 2 gd at doin it lol but i dont have that artic silver stuff, jus sum stuff called Unick Silicone Heat Transfer Compound. That be alright? or shouyld i get some realy stuff lol :blush: