I have a home network of 5 computers a P4, P3, Celiron, AMD Duron 800 Mhz and an Athlon 64 3500+ 90mn. As I am on meny forums I read alot about computers and find it funny that people are allways going head to head over this hands down my AMD Rigs out run my Intel. there are things my Duron will do better then my P4! Don't get me wrong Intel is a little better when coding, but I have found the AMD build better over all when looking at; cost, temp, what they do how fast they do it devided by clock speed. Some people say AMD run hotter then Intel... Well core temp of my 3500 at this time is 57 F aloot cooler then my P4 that is at an even 40c (100 F)... the system will not read in F degrees because the mobo on my P4 is built in and for Canada/UK. Aside from a 43% jump in temp I personly do not want to spend $100.oo to $1500.oo on something I have to add a larger fan to keep cool. P.S. the P4 and 3500 are in case the same size and all the fans are the same down to the models the heat sinks are the same build one for the AMD the other for Intel and both computers have the same speed harddrives... you would think that the AMD would be hotter with the 2 Extream n6800 Ultras in it having 1.14 Ghz each of GPU speed to work with. You know; I look at buying a computer as long as I can, normaly the day after I buy a computer is am keeping notes on what CPU and parts I will use in my next Rig,it is hardly ever these parts but I know the flaws and strong points of everything I own eg. down side to my 3500 if I run Norton on the system it must be 2005 or better.