Saddly, same here.. Hopefully Vega will pull me back away from the nvidia cliff.Perhaps one day I'll update my 7970Ghz crossfire setup.... but not yet.
Saddly, same here.. Hopefully Vega will pull me back away from the nvidia cliff.Perhaps one day I'll update my 7970Ghz crossfire setup.... but not yet.
I don't find anything awkward at all. If anything AMD's event are more straight forward, even the audience members seems more matured, while Nvidia's one was full of nosy people, specially that one girl constantly grasping over anything Nvidia says.
The bla's took the place of what we already knew as well as the parts related to Polaris and Zen I didn't watch the event for. As you can see, I wrote quite a lot and wanted to hit on what we hadn't already heard. You can always watch the presentation in its entirety on your own time and make any comment you want afterward.
Just make sure you're wide awake beforehand.
In a nutshell: "we made 25% cheaper GTX 970 / R9 390".
Will it be better bang for the buck than 1070? Maybe slightly, but ... so is intel iGPU (which comes "free" with new CPU).
Will be waiting for actual benchmarks and reviews.
New AMD cards seem to have what new Nvidia cards seriously lack... decent pricing.
if you don't count the "greedy edition" pricing, the MSRP for 1070 seems rather well priced for the single card performance IMO. 8GB RX 480 is ~58% of GTX 1070 price, whereas being also about the same amount of performance.
Looks like 1440p is now mainstream.
Yes, thanks to GTX 1070. Sadly no support from AMD by the looks of this news :-(
RX 480 is purely 1080p GPU.
I don't find anything awkward at all. If anything AMD's event are more straight forward, even the audience members seems more matured,
I don't cheer and frolic on wake either and at least try to act mature... just saying.
Looks like performance isn't the only thing the card shares with the GTX 970. Short PCB, overhanging blower, and awkward PCI-E power plug placement
EVGA already has 1080's below the $700 MSRP. Blower model for $609, ACX model for $619. Sorry to burst your bubble.In a nutshell: "we made 25% cheaper GTX 970 / R9 390".
Will it be better bang for the buck than 1070? Maybe slightly, but ... so is intel iGPU (which comes "free" with new CPU).
Will be waiting for actual benchmarks and reviews.
New AMD cards seem to have what new Nvidia cards seriously lack... decent pricing.
if you don't count the "greedy edition" pricing, the MSRP for 1070 seems rather well priced for the single card performance IMO. 8GB RX 480 is ~58% of GTX 1070 price, whereas being also about the same amount of performance.
Looks like 1440p is now mainstream.
Yes, thanks to GTX 1070. Sadly no support from AMD by the looks of this news :-(
RX 480 is purely 1080p GPU.
I don't find anything awkward at all. If anything AMD's event are more straight forward, even the audience members seems more matured,
I don't cheer and frolic on wake either and at least try to act mature... just saying.
Anyone thinking the 1080/1070 will be sold for less than the founders edition price before pat Q3 or Q4 2016 is delusional. The supply of these cards won't keep up with demand for a long time. That's why Nvidia set the founders price to get people ready for what these things will cost for the foreseeable future. Remember the i7 6700k selling for over $400 for 6-9 months? Same thing will happen here. The founders price will be best case scenario throughout the summer. The GTX 1080 as of now will cost you $900 if you want to go buy one.
MSRP means nothing I'd like to see a link to a GTX 1080 being sold for less than $800 (found 1 on eBay.) Most are $900+EVGA already has 1080's below the $700 MSRP. Blower model for $609, ACX model for $619. Sorry to burst your bubble.
It's a presentation from the biggest tech nerds on Earth. Why would it not be boring? lolThe bla's took the place of what we already knew as well as the parts related to Polaris and Zen I didn't watch the event for. As you can see, I wrote quite a lot and wanted to hit on what we hadn't already heard. You can always watch the presentation in its entirety on your own time and make any comment you want afterward.
Just make sure you're wide awake beforehand.
I'm not debating that the AMD presentation wasn't boring, it kinda was.
So excited to see the benchmarks. I may step down a tier but up 2 generations. 290 vs 480x.
It's a presentation from the biggest tech nerds on Earth. Why would it not be boring? lol
If you are buying an EVGA graphics card, why in hell would you choose FleeBay or some other price gouging outlet like Amazon over EVGA's own online store. EVGA have already confirmed that their custom models will start arriving in stock in just over a week. If you are still adamant that no one will be able to buy a GTX 1080 at less than $699 by the end of the month I'll gladly take that wager. Easy money.MSRP means nothing I'd like to see a link to a GTX 1080 being sold for less than $800 (found 1 on eBay.) Most are $900+
New AMD cards seem to have what new Nvidia cards seriously lack... decent pricing.
They day they have them in stock for more than 5 minutes you let me know.If you are buying an EVGA graphics card, why in hell would you choose FleeBay or some other price gouging outlet like Amazon over EVGA's own online store. EVGA have already confirmed that their custom models will start arriving in stock in just over a week. If you are still adamant that no one will be able to buy a GTX 1080 at less than $699 by the end of the month I'll gladly take that wager. Easy money.
That's a completely different argument than you originally made, why are you changing the central point you were asserting?.They day they have them in stock for more than 5 minutes you let me know.
People will get get the cards at less than $699 because they will pre-order or receive notification of stock availability. All I'd have to do is supply proof of a sale at less than $699 (or supply an "in stock" screencap) to negate your argument.Anyone thinking the 1080/1070 will be sold for less than the founders edition price before pat Q3 or Q4 2016 is delusional.
a few cards being sold directly by the the makers means nothing since 99.9999% of the world won't be able to buy those cards. if you want to know the price of a card you absolutely have to look at normal stores that will have them in stock. (this includes amazon and other big websites and the smaller ones)That's a completely different argument than you originally made, why are you changing the central point you were asserting?.They day they have them in stock for more than 5 minutes you let me know.
People will get get the cards at less than $699 because they will pre-order or receive notification of stock availability. All I'd have to do is supply proof of a sale at less than $699 (or supply an "in stock" screencap) to negate your argument.Anyone thinking the 1080/1070 will be sold for less than the founders edition price before pat Q3 or Q4 2016 is delusional.
Constrained supply doesn't negate sales at MSRP/vendor list price.
a few cards being sold directly by the the makers means nothing since 99.9999% of the world won't be able to buy those cards. if you want to know the price of a card you absolutely have to look at normal stores that will have them in stock. (this includes amazon and other big websites and the smaller ones)
low stocks will always drive the prices up. this also includes the AMD products. we'll most likely see higher than normal prices early.
it depends on how early they started production and how many they will have available at launch, but it's true that they will have the advantage because of the "simpler" design.Yep, that's pretty normal. I would say that AMD should be able to get ample supply of these cards just based on how small the die is and short of a huge issue at samsung.
Again, I was referring to a definitive statement. 99.9999% =/= 100%a few cards being sold directly by the the makers means nothing since 99.9999% of the world won't be able to buy those cards.
I'd also dispute the 99.9999 number. Firstly, there are a number of reputable sales outlets as well as direct vendor sales that offer the opportunity to buy at MSRP. What I would accept is if the customer is making an impulse buy, their options would be limited. For early adopters, vigilance, patience, and quick action are the keys to getting a fulfilled order, as well as signing up to the outlets forums to ascertain shipment arrival dates and times as well as the flexibility of not limiting themselves to a single SKU - for example OcUK has a few hundred cards arriving on both the 10th and 17th June, but they are spread across a number of SKUs (Before replying about prices after currency conversion please check out local pricing structures and the UK's VAT tax rate).All I'd have to do is supply proof of a sale at less than $699 (or supply an "in stock" screencap) to negate your argument.