I'm running an FX-9590 right now. I play Warcraft, stream my terrible gameplay to all zero of my twitch followers, edit videos using Camtasia, and also do quite a bit of heavy spreadsheet and programming work. I look at the new Ryzen CPU and I don't say "it's a terrible gamer". I look at it and say "it's exactly what I need". I'm willing to give up a little on the top end to gain performance where I really need it. Let's be honest here, Warcraft isn't exactly stressing either a CPU or GPU. If I'm not streaming, I can run it in preset 10 with the 9590 and an RX-480, so it's not really a demanding workload.
The other stuff I do had me considering the 6900k or 5960x, neither of which has an appealing price point. An overclocked 1700 is reasonably close to the 6900k, and presents a compelling argument at $330. Put in perspective, I can buy the 1700, an X370 motherboard, 16GB RAM, AND a GTX 1080 for about $150 more than the 6900k by itself. So when I look at the whole picture and ask myself if losing a few FPS on the top end, where I probably wouldn't notice them anyway, is worth saving a ton of money, the answer is obviously yes.
I understand that other people will have different needs, and there are different options for those people. All over the various forums, I read nothing by "ryzen is crap" and the reality appears much different. Every reviewer looking at Ryzen has said something to the effect of "fantastic option for content creators" and I think most people just gloss over that statement. It's important to buy a CPU that meets your needs. My needs are a mixed bag, so this is a good solution. If I did nothing but play video games, then Kaby Lake would be a better option. Jay (jayztwocents) described Ryzen in what I feel is the best analogy. He said Ryzen is like Mario in Mario Cart. Mario isn't the fastest and he can't jump the highest, but he does everything well.
The other stuff I do had me considering the 6900k or 5960x, neither of which has an appealing price point. An overclocked 1700 is reasonably close to the 6900k, and presents a compelling argument at $330. Put in perspective, I can buy the 1700, an X370 motherboard, 16GB RAM, AND a GTX 1080 for about $150 more than the 6900k by itself. So when I look at the whole picture and ask myself if losing a few FPS on the top end, where I probably wouldn't notice them anyway, is worth saving a ton of money, the answer is obviously yes.
I understand that other people will have different needs, and there are different options for those people. All over the various forums, I read nothing by "ryzen is crap" and the reality appears much different. Every reviewer looking at Ryzen has said something to the effect of "fantastic option for content creators" and I think most people just gloss over that statement. It's important to buy a CPU that meets your needs. My needs are a mixed bag, so this is a good solution. If I did nothing but play video games, then Kaby Lake would be a better option. Jay (jayztwocents) described Ryzen in what I feel is the best analogy. He said Ryzen is like Mario in Mario Cart. Mario isn't the fastest and he can't jump the highest, but he does everything well.