AMD vs. Intel

[Didou]

Corrections

NO, it's single channel Sorry, the AMD 680 chipset is single channel memory, the intel P31-G31 chipsets are dual channel.You're quite welcome.

Where was the AMD 680 mentioned (mind you I can't find information on that chipset) ?

 

[captaincranky]

Where was the AMD 680 mentioned (mind you I can't find information on that chipset) ?

Sorry, Nvidia 610i, simple typo.
larryiam is contemplating purchasing this board, the link is in post #1
ECS GF7050VT-M LGA 775 GeForce7050 / 610i Micro ATX Intel Motherboard.

I think the trade off may be SATA raid in the Nvidia chipset, and dual channel RAM in the Intel Bearlake. Link to the specification page, have a look; http://www.ecsusa.com/ECSWebSite/Pr...=1&DetailName=Specification&MenuID=44&LanID=0

 

[larryiam]

Well after hours of crunching numbers for money and debate.......here is what i am probally going to get.

AMD

MSI Mobo

Ram PC6400

And probably One of these PSU units:
Antec OR
Pc Power & Cooling
Which would be better?
I have decided that would be best for what my current system specs are and my budget.
I do not have to purchase another OS because of the matching Chipsets being VIA. And the SATA is only 1.5GB/s but most of the WD Raptors up to the 300GB are only 1.5GB/s SATA. Oh and i will probably get a 8600gt for the HD movies later on. I ran the setup through a PSU calculator and it cam to 320W with 30% capacitor aging. So what do you think?

 

[captaincranky]

Oh yeah, Gbs, right.....!

And the SATA is only 1.5GB/s but most of the WD Raptors up to the 300GB are only 1.5GB/s SATA.

Mechanically any of these drives can only transfer at maximum 70MBs per second. So, 150 or 300Gbts per second is nothing more than advertising propaganda and BS. Mechanically the drive can't saturate a 150Gb buss, let alone a 300.

Oh and i will probably get a 8600gt for the HD movies later on. I ran the setup through a PSU calculator and it cam to 320W with 30% capacitor aging. So what do you think?

I thought the power supply issue had been settled.

Incidentally, SATA drive interfaces are measured in giga- BITS per second, small "b", not giga-BYTES per second, which would be ten times as much data and a capital "B".. ATA drive specifications are usually given in mega-BYTES per second, so that ATA133 is actually only 17MBS slower that SATA150 which is actually 150 mega-BYTES per second. The Gbs <small "b" is just more BS designed to confuse the issue.

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Try these instead of your parts:
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2180 - $40 + shipping dependent on location
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - $59.99 + $8.97 shipping

 

[Obi-Wan Jerkobi]

Technically, the PC Power and Cooling is out of stock. And not worth the money anyway. Maybe you should invest in a better wattage Antec or maybe this Antec Basiq? You should be fine with this if it's all just video encoding and HD.

This build (Most parts from Rage_3k)
Intel DC E2180
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L It's onboard is better than Via Chrome9
The RAM you picked

Add it up= 27.98 + 68.96 + (Antec Basiq)45.86 + ~$40(Depending on Shipping) = $182.80(w/o Processor Shipping)

 

[larryiam]

192.34 would be the price for that merchandise.....excluding the antec basiq.....i went with the earthwats 380W.....it would be just as good...and money saving.....im not doing anything demanding...or plan on gaming. Now i know that this was already discussed....but is their anyway to keep my current os and get that hardware? If so i will get that intel setup. If not i am kinda forced to go with the amd setup....Because i simply can't spend 100$ on another os. And if you can't discuss it here email me any ideas...... Thanks for your time

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

You will have to re-install your OS regardless of whatever system you choose to go with. Or are you trying to say something else?

 

[larryiam]

No.....i can keep my current OS if i go with the AMD build because of the matching Chipsets. I have a VIA and that mobo has a VIA..just have to update drivers...but the Intel Build i guess i have to buy the OS then??.....

 

[Obi-Wan Jerkobi]

Actually, even if your chipsets are a matching brand, you will still have to reinstall, otherwise it won't work properly. What you are looking for is your OS CD Key. If your PC was an HP, it's probably a sticker somewhere on the side or back. Find that and enter that in during windows setup on your new rig. But it has to match the type of windows installation you are doing (Professional or Home Edition). That means a XP Home CD-Key won't work on a XP Proffesional install CD.

 

[larryiam]

Ok well I have Home Edition but it came preinstalled on the computer when i got it. I have recovery disks but that's it. Any suggestions?...i cant buy XP again budget won't allow it.

 

[Obi-Wan Jerkobi]

No recover disks won't work, but if you can find the CD-key, then all you need is to find an XP CD and use the CD Key on the side or back of the original HP case. Or Maybe you can install a free OS on it, like Ubuntu, while you look for money/an xp disc. I assume you can back everything up considering you have that external HD.

 

[Didou]

If that Windows XP will keep running on the HP machine, it is illegal for you to install & use it on the new build.

 

[larryiam]

Ok the xp i have on my hp machine right now will end when i get my new system soon. I won't be using it on both computers just my new one. So can i use it legally only on my new system? Besides if u installed it on two computers wouldn't the updates not work or Microsoft kick on it or something?

 

[hellokitty[hk]]

Ok the xp i have on my hp machine right now will end when i get my new system soon. I won't be using it on both computers just my new one. So can i use it legally only on my new system? Besides if u installed it on two computers wouldn't the updates not work or Microsoft kick on it or something?

Don't put your hp's OS on a new comp...First off, im pretty sure its still illegal. Even if its not, if microsoft wants to sue you for it (which in unlikly) there is stilll a good chance they will succeed. Also its a far cry to hope that it would work perfectly on your new compter.

Also how exatly would you transfer the os? are you just gonna swap the hdd's? If you do that theres also all the other software that you could be potentially "stealing".

Unless you can somehow squeeze the money somewere (check under your couch LOL!) You could go with linux.

 

[larryiam]

Ok yes i am going to swap hdd and no im not "transferring" my os. I have obtained a XP Home Edition cd. i am going to uninstall the OS off my "modded" Hp computer And reinstall it on my new computer with the key like Obi-Wan suggested. I am only using the Xp on one computer and i am erasing it before i put my HDD in the "new setup." i am not stealing software im deleting the whole HDD before i start again.

 

[hellokitty[hk]]

Blah starting over is a pain...I wouldn't care if you did "steal" it lol but remeber that you will have to get service pack 2 or 3 and you will not have word, outlook, or any video encoding or video playing software. Also you will have to type in your password to get back here, it won't remeber you.

 

[larryiam]

uh external hard drive..i have one.....i "type" my password in any for all sites. Everything i have is backed up....besides i can get all my stuff again fairly easy so i don't have any worries... I just want someone to confirm that i can do what i posted earlier....
EDIT:Besides the xp cd i got has SP2 already on it....

 

[captaincranky]

It's Like Deja Vu, All Over Again........

EDIT:Besides the xp cd i got has SP2 already on it....

OK, before XP Home w/ SP2b is brought up to date, WITHOUT SP3 there are about a hundred updates that need to be downloaded. So, big whoop on the XP CD with SP2.

We went through two full pages trying to select a power supply for you. Right here, your thread titled "PSU Help Please" https://www.techspot.com/vb/topic107370-2.html

And probably One of these PSU units:
Antec OR
Pc Power & Cooling
Which would be better?

And we seem to be right back on it again, in this thread. Now, make up your mind, buy something. At the end of the day, anything that's been suggested is worthwhile in the amount of money you have to spend. This really can't go on ad infinitum.

 

[larryiam]

I've Did It Before And I'll Do It Again

Yes big whoop on the CD i've got time......already decided on the PSU antec earthwatts 380W done discussed that to. What i am trying to say is Will that work getting the cd and using the serial number on my new build??.....that is my question......My build is the one Rage_3k_Moiz stated. Any more problems?

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Yeah, it will work, since it'd be a fresh install.

 

[larryiam]

Ok thank you very much! And to all the people that helped me to thank you!!

 

[larryiam]

I've got a question. would i notice any change between the Core 2 Duo and the Pentium D? And will this converter work with the GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L? I still have a ide hdd and would still like to use it.

 

[Obi-Wan Jerkobi]

Yes, you will notice a difference but you will be fine as long as your mobo says it supports Pentium D(Which is says it does.). And the IDE-SATA adapter should (apparently) work, I wish you luck with your build.

 

[hellokitty[hk]]

You would notice if your using apps that take more proceses than the pentium D can deliver. Then the core 2 duo would be faster.