AMD vs. Intel

By larryiam
Jul 11, 2008
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  1. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    Corrections

    Where was the AMD 680 mentioned (mind you I can't find information on that chipset) ?
  2. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,361   +823

    Sorry, Nvidia 610i, simple typo.
    larryiam is contemplating purchasing this board, the link is in post #1
    ECS GF7050VT-M LGA 775 GeForce7050 / 610i Micro ATX Intel Motherboard.

    I think the trade off may be SATA raid in the Nvidia chipset, and dual channel RAM in the Intel Bearlake. Link to the specification page, have a look; http://www.ecsusa.com/ECSWebSite/Pr...=1&DetailName=Specification&MenuID=44&LanID=0
  3. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    Well after hours of crunching numbers for money and debate.......here is what i am probally going to get.

    AMD

    MSI Mobo

    Ram PC6400

    And probably One of these PSU units:
    Antec OR
    Pc Power & Cooling
    Which would be better?
    I have decided that would be best for what my current system specs are and my budget.
    I do not have to purchase another OS because of the matching Chipsets being VIA. And the SATA is only 1.5GB/s but most of the WD Raptors up to the 300GB are only 1.5GB/s SATA. Oh and i will probably get a 8600gt for the HD movies later on. I ran the setup through a PSU calculator and it cam to 320W with 30% capacitor aging. So what do you think?
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,361   +823

    Oh yeah, Gbs, right.....!

    Mechanically any of these drives can only transfer at maximum 70MBs per second. So, 150 or 300Gbts per second is nothing more than advertising propaganda and BS. Mechanically the drive can't saturate a 150Gb buss, let alone a 300.
    I thought the power supply issue had been settled.

    Incidentally, SATA drive interfaces are measured in giga- BITS per second, small "b", not giga-BYTES per second, which would be ten times as much data and a capital "B".. ATA drive specifications are usually given in mega-BYTES per second, so that ATA133 is actually only 17MBS slower that SATA150 which is actually 150 mega-BYTES per second. The Gbs <small "b" is just more BS designed to confuse the issue.
  5. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

  6. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Maniac Posts: 592

    Technically, the PC Power and Cooling is out of stock. And not worth the money anyway. Maybe you should invest in a better wattage Antec or maybe this Antec Basiq? You should be fine with this if it's all just video encoding and HD.

    This build (Most parts from Rage_3k)
    Intel DC E2180
    GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L It's onboard is better than Via Chrome9
    The RAM you picked

    Add it up= 27.98 + 68.96 + (Antec Basiq)45.86 + ~$40(Depending on Shipping) = $182.80(w/o Processor Shipping)
  7. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    192.34 would be the price for that merchandise.....excluding the antec basiq.....i went with the earthwats 380W.....it would be just as good...and money saving.....im not doing anything demanding...or plan on gaming. :) Now i know that this was already discussed....but is their anyway to keep my current os and get that hardware? If so i will get that intel setup. If not i am kinda forced to go with the amd setup....Because i simply can't spend 100$ on another os. And if you can't discuss it here email me any ideas......:D Thanks for your time
  8. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    You will have to re-install your OS regardless of whatever system you choose to go with. Or are you trying to say something else?
  9. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    No.....i can keep my current OS if i go with the AMD build because of the matching Chipsets. I have a VIA and that mobo has a VIA..just have to update drivers...but the Intel Build i guess i have to buy the OS then??.....
  10. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Maniac Posts: 592

    Actually, even if your chipsets are a matching brand, you will still have to reinstall, otherwise it won't work properly. What you are looking for is your OS CD Key. If your PC was an HP, it's probably a sticker somewhere on the side or back. Find that and enter that in during windows setup on your new rig. But it has to match the type of windows installation you are doing (Professional or Home Edition). That means a XP Home CD-Key won't work on a XP Proffesional install CD.
  11. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    Ok well I have Home Edition but it came preinstalled on the computer when i got it. I have recovery disks but that's it. Any suggestions?...i cant buy XP again budget won't allow it.
     
  12. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Maniac Posts: 592

    No recover disks won't work, but if you can find the CD-key, then all you need is to find an XP CD and use the CD Key on the side or back of the original HP case. Or Maybe you can install a free OS on it, like Ubuntu, while you look for money/an xp disc. I assume you can back everything up considering you have that external HD.
  13. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    If that Windows XP will keep running on the HP machine, it is illegal for you to install & use it on the new build.
  14. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    Ok the xp i have on my hp machine right now will end when i get my new system soon. I won't be using it on both computers just my new one. So can i use it legally only on my new system? Besides if u installed it on two computers wouldn't the updates not work or Microsoft kick on it or something?
  15. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,316   +116


    Don't put your hp's OS on a new comp...First off, im pretty sure its still illegal. Even if its not, if microsoft wants to sue you for it (which in unlikly) there is stilll a good chance they will succeed. Also its a far cry to hope that it would work perfectly on your new compter.

    Also how exatly would you transfer the os? are you just gonna swap the hdd's? If you do that theres also all the other software that you could be potentially "stealing".

    Unless you can somehow squeeze the money somewere (check under your couch LOL!) You could go with linux.
  16. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    Ok yes i am going to swap hdd and no im not "transferring" my os. I have obtained a XP Home Edition cd. i am going to uninstall the OS off my "modded" Hp computer And reinstall it on my new computer with the key like Obi-Wan suggested. I am only using the Xp on one computer and i am erasing it before i put my HDD in the "new setup." i am not stealing software im deleting the whole HDD before i start again.
  17. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,316   +116

    Blah starting over is a pain...I wouldn't care if you did "steal" it lol but remeber that you will have to get service pack 2 or 3 and you will not have word, outlook, or any video encoding or video playing software. Also you will have to type in your password to get back here, it won't remeber you.
  18. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    uh external hard drive..i have one.....i "type" my password in any for all sites. Everything i have is backed up....besides i can get all my stuff again fairly easy so i don't have any worries...:D I just want someone to confirm that i can do what i posted earlier....:)
    EDIT:Besides the xp cd i got has SP2 already on it....:D
  19. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,361   +823

    It's Like Deja Vu, All Over Again........

    OK, before XP Home w/ SP2b is brought up to date, WITHOUT SP3 there are about a hundred updates that need to be downloaded. So, big whoop on the XP CD with SP2.

    We went through two full pages trying to select a power supply for you. Right here, your thread titled "PSU Help Please" http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic107370-2.html

    And we seem to be right back on it again, in this thread. Now, make up your mind, buy something. At the end of the day, anything that's been suggested is worthwhile in the amount of money you have to spend. This really can't go on ad infinitum.
  20. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    I've Did It Before And I'll Do It Again

    Yes big whoop on the CD i've got time......already decided on the PSU antec earthwatts 380W done discussed that to. What i am trying to say is Will that work getting the cd and using the serial number on my new build??.....that is my question......My build is the one Rage_3k_Moiz stated. Any more problems? :)
  21. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    Yeah, it will work, since it'd be a fresh install.
  22. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

    Ok thank you very much! And to all the people that helped me to thank you!!
  23. larryiam

    larryiam Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 577

  24. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Maniac Posts: 592

    Yes, you will notice a difference but you will be fine as long as your mobo says it supports Pentium D(Which is says it does.). And the IDE-SATA adapter should (apparently) work, I wish you luck with your build. :)
  25. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,316   +116

    You would notice if your using apps that take more proceses than the pentium D can deliver. Then the core 2 duo would be faster.
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