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Apparent second harddisk / IDE issue

By abanerji
May 13, 2008
  1. My PC configuration : Pentium dual core, Intel E2160 1.6 GHz on Intel D945GCNL, DDR2 1 GB, Seagate SATA 7200 RPM 160 GB, Sony CD-DVD combo, XP-pro SP2 fully patched, AVG free 7.5, AVG AS 7.5. Additionally, I put a second hard disk from an old Compaq PC - this is a Seagate Barracuda 40 GB 7200 RPM ultra-ATA/100 bought nearly three years ago.
    System is just two months old, and was going smooth.

    Yesterday, shutdown took a long time, and today boot was very long. The harddisk indicator is continually on. I am attaching a file containing the relevant rows from event viewer.

    Shall be grateful for advice. Thanks,
     
  2. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,714   +397

    I pasted your thing here, its better than asking people to look at a zipped xls which most people are wary of viruses in.
    Code:
    Type	       Date	     Time	     Source	      Category	            Event	User	
    Information	11/May/08	7:56:53 PM	eventlog	None	6005	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:56:53 PM	eventlog	None	6009	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:56:56 PM	Tcpip	None	4202	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:02 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:03 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:12 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:12 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:14 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:16 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	7:57:18 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	11/May/08	11:20:06 PM	eventlog	None	6006	N/A	
    Information	12/May/08	11:07:32 AM	eventlog	None	6005	N/A	
    Information	12/May/08	11:08:00 AM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Error	12/May/08	9:08:52 PM	atapi	None	9	N/A	Device\Ide\IdePort0 did not respond within timeout
    Error	12/May/08	10:08:41 PM	atapi	None	9	N/A	Device\Ide\IdePort0 did not respond within timeout
    Information	12/May/08	11:08:45 PM	eventlog	None	6006	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:50:46 PM	Tcpip	None	4202	N/A	
    Error	13/May/08	6:50:46 PM	disk	None	7	N/A	Device\Harddisk0\D has a bad block
    Warning	13/May/08	6:52:52 PM	disk	None	51	N/A	Error detected on Device\Harddisk0\D during paging operation
    Error	13/May/08	6:52:52 PM	atapi	None	9	N/A	Device\Ide\IdePort0 did not respond within timeout
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:20 PM	eventlog	None	6005	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:20 PM	eventlog	None	6009	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:51 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:52 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Information	13/May/08	6:55:53 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:56:00 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:56:00 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7035	SYSTEM	
    Error	13/May/08	6:56:01 PM	atapi	None	11	N/A	Device detected a controller error on Device\Ide\IdePort0
    Information	13/May/08	6:56:02 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Information	13/May/08	6:56:38 PM	Service Control Manager	None	7036	N/A	
    Warning	13/May/08	7:00:08 PM	ftdisk	Disk 	57	N/A	System failed to flush data to transaction log
    Warning	13/May/08	7:00:08 PM	ntfs	None	50	N/A	Windows unable to save all data for file D:\$Mft
    Error	13/May/08	7:00:25 PM	PlugPlayManager	None	12	N/A	Device Sony DVD RW disappeared from system without first being prepared for removal
    Error	13/May/08	7:00:25 PM	PlugPlayManager	None	12	N/A	Device ST340014A disappeared from system without first being prepared for removal
    Warning	13/May/08	7:00:28 PM	ftdisk	Disk 	57	N/A	System failed to flush data to transaction log
    Warning	13/May/08	7:00:28 PM	ntfs	None	50	N/A	Windows unable to save all data for file D:\$Mft
    
    Looks like you have a bad drive to me. Run one of these drive diagnostic utilities on the drive to confirm. And backup anything important asap.
     
  3. abanerji

    abanerji TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Thank you for your post. Also wondering why my Sony DVD RW disappeared from the system, along with the second hard disk.
     
  4. k.jacko

    k.jacko TS Rookie Posts: 493

    Are they on the same ide controller? The event viewer also says you have a controller error on ide port 0.
     
  5. abanerji

    abanerji TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Unfortunately, my knowledge of hardware is very limited. So, how do I know if my second hard disk and the DVD RW are on the same IDE controller?

    With my limited knowledge, I had still tried to understand the PC I bought. Intel's website (http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D945GCNL/index.htm) gives the following ...
    Peripheral interfaces
    * Four Serial ATA IDE interfaces
    * One Parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100/133 support

    The second hard disk was put inside the cabinet by the technician, and as both the hard disks and DVD gave no trouble in the past two months, I remained happy.

    So, from Intel mobo spec, does it mean that my old ATA HD and the DVD RW both are sharing the same parallel ATA ide interface?
     
  6. k.jacko

    k.jacko TS Rookie Posts: 493

    From your event log it looks that way, the atapi reference will be your dvdrw and both that and the 2nd hdd are reporting errors, so i'd 'presume' they're on the same ide controller (but not necessarily so).
    Your primary hdd could well be sata (serial).
    But what i'm suggesting is that if your 2nd hdd and dvdrw ARE on the same controller (same cable to you) then its likely that your controller has malfunctioned.
    Your mobo only has one PATA controller, so if both devices are ide then they must on the same one.
    Take the 2nd hdd out of the equation leaving just the dvdrw on the controller, see what happens.

    Of course, its possible that your dvdrw is actually sata in which case it seems like your controllers are systematically failing, for whatever reason.

    Hope i've not confused you too much. :)
     
  7. abanerji

    abanerji TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 43

    It is quite fine for me too ! And, whenever I am in trouble, I post my woes in this nice forum ... have always found help.

    I will have to get a technician to poke inside the cabinet. But, prior knowledge helps me in meaningful interaction with the person.

    Thanks again,
     
  8. abanerji

    abanerji TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 43

    Thought of updating. Last weekend, I got a technician to poke inside the cabinet, and it seems my second drive (which thankfully contained only backups ... I am a bit paranoid about data, and have several versions) has crashed. He felt that the old IDE HD may have had a speed compatibility issue with the relatively new CPU/mobo.
    The DVD-RW is recognised by the system now, and so far, event viewer log shows clean.

    A curiosity ..... was the technician's comment "... the old IDE HD may have had a speed compatibility issue with the relatively new CPU/mobo ..." right?
     
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,714   +397

    No. There aren't any compatability problems between IDE speeds. An ATA133 IDE controller will operate an ATA33 disk just fine. They are backwards compatable.
     
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