Apple iPhone 7 Plus Review

The comparison was between Samsung Galaxy and Apple iPhone though.... and the price for those are about the same - yet the iphone outperforms...

Um, no.

His previous comment

"Android phones were faster you would be calling iPhones out for being slow"

Android phones, he never stated a singular device else my 2nd reply to him would have never occurred. Also samsung galaxy and iPhone are not actual models, they are brands. Brands are not physical devices to be compared. It would be ridiculous to claim every iPhone model outperforms every samsung galaxy model.
 
Um, no.

His previous comment

"Android phones were faster you would be calling iPhones out for being slow"

Android phones, he never stated a singular device else my 2nd reply to him would have never occurred. Also samsung galaxy and iPhone are not actual models, they are brands. Brands are not physical devices to be compared. It would be ridiculous to claim every iPhone model outperforms every samsung galaxy model.
Yes, that was his previous comment.... but had you read back further, you'd have noticed it started with comparisons between the Galaxy and iPhone - one person stating that the Galaxy S5 outperformed the iPhone 7 in fact....

Obviously, since Apple only releases one smartphone (technically 2 if u count Plus as a separate one) per year, they only "compete" with other companies' flagships - which they consistently outperform processor-wise every time. Even when the Android versions seemingly have beefier hardware specs, Apple crushes them in both synthetic and actual benchmark tests.
 
Um, no. A person looking at a $700 iPhone will not be looking at a $40 android phone.

Also, more performance? The screen resolution on the plus model is only 1080p with 3 GB of RAM and a significantly shorter battery life. Not to mention it is $200 more. The only thing the iPhone 7 does have is faster storage, which just like an SSD, can make something appear to have more performance. I'm guessing you got the impression that the iPhone 7 is faster based on those videos running two different 3d games side by side (which is irrelevant since it is not a proper test) or by the single super high benchmark score the iPhone 7 is able to pull off, which doesn't mean anything either because the code between platforms is different.

But enough with this, let's see you provide links to backup your claims.
This article has benchmarks proving that the iPhone 7 is faster than every single android flagship. Why would you assume a budget android user would be comparing to an iPhone? To make things simple for you, someone who is looking at spending hundreds of pounds on an android flagship has a choice between those and the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 is significantly faster.Even the 6s is faster than every single flagship. Did you not read the article mate?

Is this written simply enough for you to understand now? Or are you going to jump to another false assumption again?
 
Yes, that was his previous comment.... but had you read back further, you'd have noticed it started with comparisons between the Galaxy and iPhone - one person stating that the Galaxy S5 outperformed the iPhone 7 in fact....

Obviously, since Apple only releases one smartphone (technically 2 if u count Plus as a separate one) per year, they only "compete" with other companies' flagships - which they consistently outperform processor-wise every time. Even when the Android versions seemingly have beefier hardware specs, Apple crushes them in both synthetic and actual benchmark tests.

I wasn't replying to previous comments, I was replying to his blanket statements I showed.
 
This article has benchmarks proving that the iPhone 7 is faster than every single android flagship. Why would you assume a budget android user would be comparing to an iPhone? To make things simple for you, someone who is looking at spending hundreds of pounds on an android flagship has a choice between those and the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 is significantly faster.Even the 6s is faster than every single flagship. Did you not read the article mate?

Is this written simply enough for you to understand now? Or are you going to jump to another false assumption again?

Lol, benchmarks between architectures don't mean much. The only thing they prove is the iPhone got a higher synthetic number on a benchmark optimized for it. I have already stated my reasoning for this. Come get me when you can prove this makes it faster in real world performance than the SSG S7.
 
Lol, benchmarks between architectures don't mean much. The only thing they prove is the iPhone got a higher synthetic number on a benchmark optimized for it. I have already stated my reasoning for this. Come get me when you can prove this makes it faster in real world performance than the SSG S7.

Gutted.
 

It's exactly like I said, the iPhone wins in some Apps thanks to it's storage speed. This is brought out even more when you are quickly opening and closing a bunch of apps, which isn't really indicative of a real world scenario.

Thanks for further proving my point.
 
It's exactly like I said, the iPhone wins in some Apps thanks to it's storage speed. This is brought out even more when you are quickly opening and closing a bunch of apps, which isn't really indicative of a real world scenario.

Thanks for further proving my point.
lol... and what does the Samsung win at? It was a quarter of a second faster loading stopwatch....

That test was actually about as much of a "real world" test as you can get... Take ANY flagship smartphone and compare it to the iPhone running apps, loading videos, playing music etc... the iPhone wins the speed test EVERY SINGLE TIME.
 
It's exactly like I said, the iPhone wins in some Apps thanks to it's storage speed. This is brought out even more when you are quickly opening and closing a bunch of apps, which isn't really indicative of a real world scenario.

Thanks for further proving my point.
Why do you find it so difficult to accept the fact that iphones are considerably faster than their equally priced Samsung counterparts? Like every bit of evidence is here, in literally almost every single test the iphone has won by a big margin. There are editorial extracts from revered tech sites praising the iphone for its technical dominance and there is a video with a very good real world speed test, demonstrating the iphone thrashing what was one of the fastest android handsets that can actually cost more than it. Although I should point out that even last years 6S is faster than a Note 7 in almost all tests - thats the real embarrassment for Android.

But I have no doubt that you are going to continue to humiliate yourself. You know like you did earlier when you tried to claim that you cant compare Android phones to iphones. Next you will be telling us you cant compare pepsi and coke!
 
lol... and what does the Samsung win at? It was a quarter of a second faster loading stopwatch....

That test was actually about as much of a "real world" test as you can get... Take ANY flagship smartphone and compare it to the iPhone running apps, loading videos, playing music etc... the iPhone wins the speed test EVERY SINGLE TIME.

In a test suited to the phone's strengths...

Not to mention there was only 1 rotation of a limited set of apps.

I've already stated this before but the memory subsystem gives it a large boost in speed but speed and performance are two different things. I can take an SSD and slap it into an old system and it would appear faster than a brand new system with a hard drive. According to you this means it is better.

Why do you find it so difficult to accept the fact that iphones are considerably faster than their equally priced Samsung counterparts? Like every bit of evidence is here, in literally almost every single test the iphone has won by a big margin. There are editorial extracts from revered tech sites praising the iphone for its technical dominance and there is a video with a very good real world speed test, demonstrating the iphone thrashing what was one of the fastest android handsets that can actually cost more than it. Although I should point out that even last years 6S is faster than a Note 7 in almost all tests - thats the real embarrassment for Android.

But I have no doubt that you are going to continue to humiliate yourself. You know like you did earlier when you tried to claim that you cant compare Android phones to iphones. Next you will be telling us you cant compare pepsi and coke!


One video from a YouTuber. I pointed out the flaws in his video. The testing methodologies used are far from perfect.

Also, no you can't compare Android to Apple directly through benchmarks. They both have different architecture, the apps run different code, and the OSs handle everything differently. That would be as dumb as comparing the number of shaders in an AMD card to an Nvidia one. Well no **** the AMD card has higher shaders but it sure doesn't perform well for it. Earlier you also tried to compare all Apple products to all Android products, which is ridiculous give the price berth. If calling names gives you a false sense of feeling good, be my guest.
 
In a test suited to the phone's strengths...

Not to mention there was only 1 rotation of a limited set of apps.

I've already stated this before but the memory subsystem gives it a large boost in speed but speed and performance are two different things. I can take an SSD and slap it into an old system and it would appear faster than a brand new system with a hard drive. According to you this means it is better.




One video from a YouTuber. I pointed out the flaws in his video. The testing methodologies used are far from perfect.

Also, no you can't compare Android to Apple directly through benchmarks. They both have different architecture, the apps run different code, and the OSs handle everything differently. That would be as dumb as comparing the number of shaders in an AMD card to an Nvidia one. Well no **** the AMD card has higher shaders but it sure doesn't perform well for it. Earlier you also tried to compare all Apple products to all Android products, which is ridiculous give the price berth. If calling names gives you a false sense of feeling good, be my guest.
There were two rotations.... And it was pretty obvious that the more rotations, the better the iPhone was going to do...

So what tests do you want to see? Because every single one available on the web has the iPhone destroying the competition.... It browses faster, run apps faster.... What else do u want?

And you can compare AMD cards to Nvidia cards easily... Run the same games - Nvidia wins every time....

Run the same apps on a Samsung and iPhone.... iPhone wins every time.... Who cares if they are coded differently - if the apple ones are coded "better", that just gives us another reason to choose the iPhone!!
 
There were two rotations.... And it was pretty obvious that the more rotations, the better the iPhone was going to do...

So what tests do you want to see? Because every single one available on the web has the iPhone destroying the competition.... It browses faster, run apps faster.... What else do u want?

And you can compare AMD cards to Nvidia cards easily... Run the same games - Nvidia wins every time....

Run the same apps on a Samsung and iPhone.... iPhone wins every time.... Who cares if they are coded differently - if the apple ones are coded "better", that just gives us another reason to choose the iPhone!!

I was talking about comparing shader counts between AMD and Nvidia as a means of performance and how crazy that would be.

That's fine if they are coded better, I just wanted to make the distinction that it has an effect on the perceived performance.
 
Modern AMOLED displays also provide better viewing angles, surpassing IPS. If you want deep blacks, nothing beats an AMOLED panel! ... Since each “dot” is essentially its own colored light in an AMOLED display, colors are better and contrast is great!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10685/the-iphone-7-and-iphone-7-plus-review/2

Actually, the iPhone's display is brighter than the Samsung... how about that...also better color accuracy, saturation, grayscale, etc... Yes, contrast is a bit better in AMOLED, but not by that much - and taking in the rest of the results, I'm going iPhone...
 
Evernessince, could provide us with data that shows the iPhone 7 losing to any android phone in more than one test? You seem determined to disprove the well established fact that iPhones are currently humiliating their android counterparts.
 
Evernessince, could provide us with data that shows the iPhone 7 losing to any android phone in more than one test? You seem determined to disprove the well established fact that iPhones are currently humiliating their android counterparts.

I can provide that but first look at this link

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/iphone-7-geekbench-benchmark-scores/

According to the benchmark scores the iPhone 7 is faster than any MacBook air ever made. It's kind of a warning bell that something is up with that benchmark on the iPhone 7.

Also

http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/iphone-7-plus,oneplus-3/

The iPhone 7 is the faster Phone but some of the faster Android devices can keep up.
 
I can provide that but first look at this link

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/iphone-7-geekbench-benchmark-scores/

According to the benchmark scores the iPhone 7 is faster than any MacBook air ever made. It's kind of a warning bell that something is up with that benchmark on the iPhone 7.

Also

http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/iphone-7-plus,oneplus-3/

The iPhone 7 is the faster Phone but some of the faster Android devices can keep up.
To sum up.... No, he can't....

But he can provide lots of stuff to try and divert you from your point...
 
To sum up.... No, he can't....

But he can provide lots of stuff to try and divert you from your point...

Squid, only seeing what he wants to see and only talking without substance. If you are going to add something to the conversation than do so. I highly doubt that is going to happen though, since all you even do is post negative comments you know will attract attention. You are the textbook definition of a troll and your post history proves it.
 
Squid, only seeing what he wants to see and only talking without substance. If you are going to add something to the conversation than do so. I highly doubt that is going to happen though, since all you even do is post negative comments you know will attract attention. You are the textbook definition of a troll and your post history proves it.
Really? Who's the troll here? You post on an iPhone 7 review about how you can't compare an iPhone to an android phone... Then when you lose that argument, you divert to another topic - which you also lose.... Now you're simply diverting again.... Where's your proof that an Android phone beats the iPhone 7? Still waiting....
 
Really? Who's the troll here? You post on an iPhone 7 review about how you can't compare an iPhone to an android phone... Then when you lose that argument, you divert to another topic - which you also lose.... Now you're simply diverting again.... Where's your proof that an Android phone beats the iPhone 7? Still waiting....

Thanks for proving my point. You ignore what I posted because you want to. I've already had to repost multiple times because you have selective thinking. No, now you are simply posting again with no substance. The other guy was willing to backup his point with something, you just continue to troll.
 
Thanks for proving my point. You ignore what I posted because you want to. I've already had to repost multiple times because you have selective thinking. No, now you are simply posting again with no substance. The other guy was willing to backup his point with something, you just continue to troll.
The "other guy" is making the same points I am... I provided some links, he provided others - why would I post the same links he already posted?

And here you are again, making a post without any new evidence or proof of any kind... still waiting on your proof that an iPhone 7 loses to Android.... the "proof" you posted shows the iPhone winning.... that's proof for MY point, not yours...
 
The "other guy" is making the same points I am... I provided some links, he provided others - why would I post the same links he already posted?

And here you are again, making a post without any new evidence or proof of any kind... still waiting on your proof that an iPhone 7 loses to Android.... the "proof" you posted shows the iPhone winning.... that's proof for MY point, not yours...

"points finger but forgets to looks at himself"

You are obviously going to draw you own conclusions, just like you did saying the headphone jack is worthless. Here, let me put it in terms for you.

THE IPHONE 7 is the best PERFORMING SMARTPHONE! (for Squid Surprise)
 
THE IPHONE 7 is the best PERFORMING SMARTPHONE! (for Squid Surprise)
See, that wasn't so hard... maybe next time try it in 1 post instead of wasting everyone's time with multiples...

For the record - I never said the headphone jack was "worthless" - only that its lack won't be nearly as detrimental as some posters believe, and that the future will clearly be one in which few if any smartphones will use it.
 
See, that wasn't so hard... maybe next time try it in 1 post instead of wasting everyone's time with multiples...

For the record - I never said the headphone jack was "worthless" - only that its lack won't be nearly as detrimental as some posters believe, and that the future will clearly be one in which few if any smartphones will use it.

Hm, I can totally agree on that. Now this whole conversation just feels like there was a small misunderstanding.
 
Glad to see that this massive android fanboy can finally understand that it's not just "perceived" increased performance on the iPhone 7 as he tried to claim earlier.

I wonder if he still thinks the dac in the adapter "entirely" defines sound quality like he also tried to claim earlier.

Also, it might be worth nothing that if android go the same route you will need a USB type c connector, which is heavier, bigger, more expensive and does not transmit analogue therefore requiring evernessince's beloved dac. It would be worse than the lightning port for audio. Of course it's worth pointing out that dacs will move to the headphones and will be far better than a generic dac in the phone as they will be bespoke but the who am I to say anything, I only worked in sound production for 8 years.
 
Glad to see that this massive android fanboy can finally understand that it's not just "perceived" increased performance on the iPhone 7 as he tried to claim earlier.

I wonder if he still thinks the dac in the adapter "entirely" defines sound quality like he also tried to claim earlier.

Also, it might be worth nothing that if android go the same route you will need a USB type c connector, which is heavier, bigger, more expensive and does not transmit analogue therefore requiring evernessince's beloved dac. It would be worse than the lightning port for audio. Of course it's worth pointing out that dacs will move to the headphones and will be far better than a generic dac in the phone as they will be bespoke but the who am I to say anything, I only worked in sound production for 8 years.

The DAC, Headphones, and audio file you are listening to determine audio quality. I stated that very clearly. That isn't debatable, it's fact. If any one of those are of low quality then the result is low quality. You quote marks mean nothing because those aren't my words.

"I only worked in sound production for 8 years"

Yeah, because everyone on the internet is an expert. I hear this about every other day.

"Of course it's worth pointing out that dacs will move to the headphones and will be far better than a generic dac in the phone as they will be bespoke but the who am I to say anything"

And how do you come up with that? Do you realise the space and cost requirements of a quality dac? No, low end headphones will weight more, cost more to make, and implement the lowest quality DAC. This is obvious as the low end always minimizes costs. You are forcing extra costs unto every headphone, especially if you want them to sound good. For someone who supposedly worked is sound production for 8 years you don't even know the basic. Go to head-fi and pose the question you just posed to me and then tell them where you worked for 8 years.

"Glad to see that this massive android fanboy can finally understand "

Ok, you are the one coming back here and taking cheap shots after the fact. I've been called an Nvidia fanboy, an Intel Fanboy, an Apple fanboy, an AMD fanboy, whatever company you can name I've probably been called a fanboy. Correlation does not equal causation, just because I defend a product that happens to be under a brand doesn't make me one. Weak people use names instead of an actual argument.

"Also, it might be worth nothing that if android go the same route you will need a USB type c connector, which is heavier, bigger, more expensive and does not transmit analogue therefore requiring evernessince's beloved dac."

So it essence the same thing as the lightning connecter, seeing as they are both digital cables. The big difference being anyone can use USB-C, it is not a proprietary format.
 
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