Hello, ok, here's the skinny, i was updating the bios of my Asus p4c800e-deluxe (socket 478, p4 3ghz) to the latest bios. i used the convenient asus flash utility to install the bios without having to boot from floppy, etc. so i flashed the bios no prob, rebooted, and get nothing. it just so turns out that it will only totally boot up about a third of the time, and that no matter how many times i revert back to default settings in the bios, every time i reboot it says "overclocking has failed, revert back to default settings" or whaterver. and im not overclocking it the slightest. but get this, since the flash, my onboard nic has crapped out. not like it has a red x on it, no, my computer doesnt evern realize it has a nic! there is nothing in device manager or network connections about a nic. so thats the disaster. now i am going to try and boot from a floppy and install the bios the old fashion way. see if that helps. (probably not) so there it is. if anyone can help that would be great. im in a world of hurt.