ATI Radeon 9200 BSODs just about anywhere, anytime

By gospelmidi
Nov 23, 2005
  1. I'll post the next halt messages I see. The computer crashes without rhyme or reason, in Firefox, in Opera, in Notepad, in Wordpad. About the only thing I can do 100% safely is play Freecell. Or play dead.

    I have tested the memory successfully with Memtest86 on a number of occasions. I have done exhaustive (non-destructive) HDD tests without error. I have reinstalled Windows XP SP2 several times and Ghosted the HDD times without number.

    Last week, I installed a new Codegen 400w ATX P/S, which I felt sure would fix the problem. But I've had half-a-dozen BSODs since then, so the P/S wasn't the problem.

    I usually set the video at 800x600x32. I think it is the ATI Radeon 9200 driver,, or the Catalyst 5.7 driver. ATI doesn't respond to my emailed request for support, so here I am!
  2. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,377

    Usually a BSOD will have a Stop error such as 0x0000008, or identify a system file. Right click on My Computer, select Properties-Advanced-Startup and un-check Automatically Restart.
  3. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994


    Two minidumps have the same symptom. Probably it is faulty ram. Some faulty ram can pass memtest. You also ZoneAlarm and your version have a lot of confirmed finding. ZoneAlarm crashes windows because it conflicits with some software such as eMule and etc. De-install ZoneAlarm may resolve the problem.

    1. Check the temperature of the CPU and make sure that it is not overheat (ie temperature < 60C)
    Make sure that the CPU fan works properly
    2. Reseat the memory stick to another memory slot. Reseat video card as well.
    3. Downclock the ram. Check to default setting if you video card is overclocked.
    4. Clean the dust inside the computer case
    5. Make sure that the ram is compatible to the motherboard
    6. Check the bios setting about memory timing and make sure that it is on
    For example : DIMM1 and DIMM2 do not have the same timing.
    DIMM1: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
    DIMM2: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
    DIMM3: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
    7. Run chkdsk /r at command prompt

    If it still crashes, diagnostic which memory stick is faulty
    1. Take out one memory stick. If windows does not crash, the removed memory stick is faulty.
    2. If you have only one memory stick, replace the ram

    Summary of your debug report
    Mini112205-01.dmp BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 8058ade2, b863a96c, 0}
    Mini112205-01.dmp Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!CmpParseKey+6b8 )

    Mini112305-01.dmp BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 8058ade2, b889696c, 0}
    Mini112305-01.dmp Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!CmpParseKey+6b8 )
  4. gospelmidi

    gospelmidi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Nothing is overclocked; even the bus is the default 100MHz.

    The ASUS CMOS settings for the memory are by SPD: 3-2-2.

    The DIMMs installed are 256MB 8ns, 128MB 7ns, and 64MB 7ns.

    I'll replace the 64MB 7ns with a 256MB 8ns and hope for the best.

    DUST? Are you insinuating that the inside of my PC could be dusty?
    Why should I vacuum the inside of my PC? I don't even vacuum my house!

    Oh. . . that's why I need to vacuum the inside of the box, eh.
  5. gospelmidi

    gospelmidi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Stop message

    Check to be sure you have adequate disk space.
    If a driver is identified in the Stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates.
    Try changing video adapters.

    Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates.
    Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.

    If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode.

    Technical information [3 different BSODs]:

    *** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB86AC96C, 0x00000000)

    *** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB88A996C, 0x00000000)

    *** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB86B496C, 0x00000000)

    I think the hard drive may be hesitating or sticking. Even though the two disk checks in XP test satisfactorily, sometimes the HDD takes several seconds to save a file that used to be "instantaneous".

    Attached Files:

  6. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    All your minidumps are crashing at ntoskrnl.exe. This is the Microsoft Boot Up Kernel. The bugcheck of 8E means. A kernel mode program generated an exception which the error handler didn’t catch. These are nearly always hardware compatibility issues (which sometimes means a driver issue or a need for a BIOS upgrade).

    Try updating your bios, and see if that helps.

    Regards Howard :)
  7. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994


    All of your minidumps have the same symptoms. The stack trace of all the minidumps are exactly the same. I believe that it is software error as hardware error occurs randomly. De-install ZoneAlarm and install sygate, If it still crashes with the symptom, upgrade BIOS.

    b88eeba0 805674b5 80000020 00000104 83ad5c00 nt!CmpParseKey+0x6b8
    b88eec28 8056729a 0000001c b88eec68 00000040 nt!ObpLookupObjectName+0x119
    b88eec7c 80567bfd 00000000 843c1bf8 00000001 nt!ObOpenObjectByName+0xeb
    b88eed50 804de7ec 00bef858 00020019 00bef658 nt!NtOpenKey+0x1af
    b88eed50 7c90eb94 00bef858 00020019 00bef658 nt!KiFastCallEntry+0xf8
    WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
    00bef698 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0x7c90eb94
  8. gospelmidi

    gospelmidi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    ZoneAlarm is not installed ATT; I'm using Windows Firewall.

    A few of these HALT lines are at bootup, but most are while actively mousing in Firefox, WordPad, or something else.

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB86AC96C, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB88A996C, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xB86B496C, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xF79977FC, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8058ADE2, 0xF79A37FC, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80584DDA, 0xF79D77FC, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80584DDA, 0xBA99696C, 0x00000000)

    0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80584DDA, 0xF79E37FC, 0x00000000)
  9. gospelmidi

    gospelmidi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Hey Howard,
    I have swapped out the hard drive, repartitioned NTFS, formatted, reinstalled Windows XP SP2, and installed the indicated Windows Updates.
    The ASUS P3V133 m/b is using the latest BIOS, 1003-2. The ATI Radeon 9200 is using the latest Catalyst driver, 5.11. I had been using Catalyst driver 5.7, so updating the video driver didn't change the HALT problem.
    I don't have ZoneAlarm installed while this is being debugged. I don't have a realtime anti-virus running in the background. I'm not running Shadow Copy or System Restore.
    I'm getting another memory stick in the near future. I'll take out all but the newest 256MB stick and report back with the results.
  10. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994


    From the module list of the minidump, I only find one ATI module.

    ati2mtag ati2mtag.sys Sat Oct 29 11:12:31 2005 (4362E89F)

    If ATI display card driver contains the following modules

    You had better re-install ATI display card driver.
  11. gospelmidi

    gospelmidi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    faulty RAM?

    The ATI device driver, under Display Adapter Properties/Settings, includes about 24 files. I reinstalled the 5.11 Catalyst driver anyway, to no avail.

    I'm going to assume faulty RAM until I can install another DIMM.
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