ATI's R600 appears to be a complete monster...

ATI's R600 is a real monster...

I just found this on the web:

http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=35708

If those specs are true....... Then it will surely wipe the floor with the 8800GTX

Also, I found this too:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35707

Pretty interesting pages, ain't they?

I'd love to see the new, R600-based mid range cards!

140.1GB/s... ... ... ... **dies** ... ... ... ...

Remember that merger with AMD, the king of Memory controllers, that is now coming into play lol.

That 512bit memory bus is awesome

Everything looks phenomenal, except power consumption. Imagine how much power it will requiere for Crossfire operation... Even a PCP&C 1KW PSU wouldn't be enough for them.

I just wish that GPU's were more power efficient things, just like Conroe's.

Maybe someday, GPU's and CPU's will be cooled only by small heatsinks, without any ****ing fan. Imagine a complete silent PC, consuming less than 200W @ 100% load, and staying very cool.....

But it appears that AMD (ATI) and Nvidia don't care about heat and power consumption issues.....

OMG 2GB of VRAM?! *dies*

I think that will be only for FireGL cards. Maybe "normal" R600-based cards will have "only" have 1GB of RAM, or 1.5GB.

Wow, if I get that card I'd literally have more VRAM than system ram... But the prices will probably be something like 2000$ .

I have to wonder, with the new, faster cards coming out much faster than they used to, when is PCIe x16 going to jump up in speed? Won't these new cards get bottlenecked eventually by the bandwidth limits of PCIE x16?

There have been some rather discouraging information about the G80 and extremely poor dynamic branch performance in shaders. Previous 6/7 series cards also suffered from this, but it appears the G80 does not tackle this big shortcoming.

I've been seeing benchmarks on others comparing the G80's dynamic branching performance at a factor in specific conditions around 4% of an X1950. The raised ceilings afforded by DX10 will just be a waste if shader branching is anyway crippled by one architecture.

As it stands right now, posted examples of dynamic branching/shaders right now aren't complex enough to exhibit the problem. It's anyone's guess if developers will code for ATI/AMD dynamic branching or NV's... if so, this will continue to be a non-issue.. but it's discouraging that this facet of the architecture, while improved over the previous generation, may be a problem.

It's still being debated/ironed out to determine if this is some compiler shader optimization, driver/compiler issue with G80 or a real, honest problem. Unfortunately, much like the FX series, any kinds of debates or discussions concerning this are being bemuddled and messengers/discussions are being harrassed by "cronies".. I'm hoping those working on exploring this issue will be able to work past this rather nasty trend.

That's true Sharkfood. Some people say that the ATI's R600 will be very powerful in shader-rich games. Just like the X1000 series.

BTW, I don't think that PCI-E will be the bottleneck. It is very fast. But maybe we could see a PCI-E X32.... who knows

Now the R600 becomes a X2800XTX

750 Mhz core clock and 2.2 Ghz GDDR4 RAM!?!?!

That is amazing It should destroy the 8800GTX, but I may be wrong...

Heh, "should"? More like, "will". And pricing in at 600$ puts it in 8800GTX territory... Hmm, 600$ for an extreme card or 600$ for a card that destroys the extreme card

It's even better than the 8900GTX. The 8900GTX is 700/2200... and still only 128 unified shaders.

Haha, NICE... If I'm getting this right, ATI's 64 unified shaders will do 4 calculations each, thus acting like 256 unified shaders... Twice as much as the Geforce's. Now imagine the X2950XTX... Probably what I'll have once the
X3950XTX comes out... My X850XT would seem like a ... I have no idea. Haha.

Wow... This stuff is really cool... Just imagine, X9950XTX...

Just imagine Xfire, now that it's all internal... dual Crossfire Bridges for 2x the bandwidth of SLI. Prob get like 45000 in 3dMark06

My guess on the X2950XTX is like maybe... 1000MHz/3000MHz / 128 Unified Shaders x4 ops = 512 / 512 bit ... 192GB/s bandwidth Just my wishful thinking

But since ATi is no longer Canadian, I am starting to find I prefer Nvidia. But I will concur that that X2800XTX will pwnage the 8800/8900GTX/GTS

these cards look like monsters, i heard there going to be very long also
just forget about the price......

on another note, anyone know prices\ ETA of midrange ati cards that are comparable to the 8600ultra

thanks

If I remember correctly the X2800GTO should be 300$, destroying any 8600 card. As for longness, I believe they were at first 13 inches. Yes, a foot and an inch. However, I think ATI revised them so that they aren't longer than the 8800GTX. They shouldn't have though...

"Hey guys, check out my super-big, super-awesome 8800GTX... it's like, 11 inches!"
"Meh, that's nice. Nothing really compared to my 13-inch X2800XTX that will totally destroy your card though..."

@MetalX:
[sometime in the future]
- Hello, I'm agi_shi and I have an X2800XTX card. It's really struggling in today's games and I like to game. Any suggestions on what to upgrade?
- WOW, man, that's from like... the middle ages man. Get yourself an X9600XT, it'll only cost you ~120$, and it'll destroy your X2800XTX. You'll also need to upgrade your PSU to a good, quality one of about ~3500W, though I recommend 4000W. You'll also need to upgrade your motherboard to one with a PCI-Express x512 slot.

Haha.

Wow, the price will go up for those in the future? Maybe because of its antique status? :giddy:

LOL if I'm still around Techspot by then, I'll try to remember to quote that exact post when you come running for help