Well, Got a bug. Was playing Ads randomly. I couldn't track down the actual service doing it, but had an SVCHOST running nuts. Kill it, came back over and over. Steps Taken so far, 1.) malwarebytes - full scan (not solved) 2.) AVG - Full scan (nothing Found) 3) Combo Fix 4.) Rkill 5.) MBAR and subsequent fixdamage Bug seems to be gone. No run away process, no ads. BUT have some remaining symptoms. Following services will not start 1.) software protection 2.) Windows Audio 3.) Windows Audio Endpoint Builder Windows Update will not update windows components. It will install Office updates, MS Security Essentials and .net Updates, but not IE, Not Windows updates. Updates are an issue as the machine is Win7 but still has IE8 and does not have sp1. Thanks for the help for a new guy.