Battlefield 3 killer?

[ViPeRMiMiS]

It means that anything less than 30fps in a shooting game, you will get lag, can't react quickly enough and someone with better framerates will come around and shoot you in the head

I don't know what kind of games you play but I would say for shooting games 40fps in the minimum. Maybe for RPGs or adventure games 30fps is ok.

Even 25 is fine isn't it? Cause it looks more "normal" with 25. Like movies I don't know xD
Thanks

 

[pingpongmury]

Those are pretty good setups. I think the 560 Ti 448 SLI might be a bit of overkill though. Also to run that kind of SLI/CF setup you would need minimum a 750-800W PSU.

Yepp, I have a 1000W Rosewill Lightning in my newegg cart already. Anyone had any luck unlocking non reference 6950s btw? I can't seem to find any info on the subject.

 

[pingpongmury]

Considered EVGA branded nvidia cards?

They have top notch lifetime warranty and I RMA'ed a old card once with no problems. They also have a step up program so for example if you buy a regular 560 ti and want to get the 448 core one you just send the orig card back and pay the difference (if its 3 months from purchase)

No I had no idea they had that kind of policy.. I went with the ASUS because of the Super Alloy Power, VRAM heatsinks and the fact that it's non reference. I'll look into it though, thanks a lot.

 

[lipe123]

No I had no idea they had that kind of policy.. I went with the ASUS because of the Super Alloy Power, VRAM heatsinks and the fact that it's non reference. I'll look into it though, thanks a lot.

They even have a Frankenstein 560 dual gpu on a single card thing:
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P3-1569-KR&family=GeForce 500 Series Family&sw=

The "classified" editions of their cards have some nice non reference coolers.

 

[DKRON]

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I have done a little more research and will most likely go with either unlocked 6950's in CF or ASUS' GTX 560-Ti TOP's in SLI.. The 6950s will also most likely be of the ASUS Direct CUII variety. I may even try to get my hands on a pair of 560-Ti 448's.

Sorry for everyone getting distracted arguing about nothing, the ASUS Direct CUII are the best cards in its class, just remember they are twice as wide as normal cards so you need a larger MB and if you can find one that has split 16x PCIe slots then it'll work perfect, good luck

 

[pingpongmury]

Sorry for everyone getting distracted arguing about nothing, the ASUS Direct CUII are the best cards in its class, just remember they are twice as wide as normal cards so you need a larger MB and if you can find one that has split 16x PCIe slots then it'll work perfect, good luck

Hah, no its fine.. I still got some things cleared up.. But yea the higher-end ASUS motherboards like the Sabertooth and Crosshair V were designed with the tri-slot GPU solutions in mind, they staggered the x16 PCI-E's accordingly.. And actually sell an extension that allows 3 card SLI/CF of these beastly cards. O.o

 

[LinkedKube]

Yepp, I have a 1000W Rosewill Lightning in my newegg cart already. Anyone had any luck unlocking non reference 6950s btw? I can't seem to find any info on the subject.

Eww Rosewill

 

[red1776]

Anyone had any luck unlocking non reference 6950s btw? I can't seem to find any info on the subject.

I got extremely fortunate with my Sapphire 6950's Flex edition. They have a dual Bios and all four of them were 6970's on the first bios.

I was informed that what i got was rev 1.0 and that is why. I don't know if they are making/selling that revision any longer. Also if you can find the Sapphire 'Toxic', that one has a 6970 bios.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1041&pid=1243&psn=&lid=1&leg=0
If you can find these, be aware that while they have a built in 6970 bios, they tend to run hot. i was looking at these first, but after putting one in a customer build, I dont think they would do very well heat wise stacked up in CF.
Other than that i am reading that they are clamping down on this so its hard to know which ones will flash to a full fledged 6970.

. And actually sell an extension that allows 3 card SLI/CF of these beastly cards. O.o

Yup, I used a PCIE riser to get the 4th 5850 in my Crosshair Formula IV build last year. They work very well. Get the passive version though.
I was working with dual slot Asus DirectCu cards and the standard 3" worked, you probably want to get another inch put on it to get down below those triple slot cards.

Here is where I get mine from 'ORBIT MICRO'


@ Viper
I like how you have decided whats right for all

What else you want?

four 6970's , Ultra settings, three screens, and 100 FPS.....oh yeah...and one raspberry :wave:

 

[pingpongmury]

Eww Rosewill

Haha, yeahh I know Rosewill takes a lot of flak, but I have had little issue with Rosewill PSU's.. I did have a 550W go out on me, but Rosewill replaced it with a 650W free of charge (including shipping for both PSU's), and the original was past warranty.

Why is it that everyone has an aversion to Rosewill? Because its not Corsair?

 

[Leeky]

Why is it that everyone has an aversion to Rosewill? Because its not Corsair?

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Most likely because the components used to produce it are nowhere near as good as other quality units, because it would probably melt into a puddle before hitting 1000w load (unlike quality units) and if that wasn't enough, it probably has power delivery about as smooth as the oscillation of AC current, yes you guessed it, unlike most high quality units.

1000w (not that it would be achievable I'd imagine) is also massive overkill, will be horrendously inefficient and will consequently cost you a fortune to power from the mains.

Its entirely possible it might like up to its "Lightening" model designation when it blows up though.

EDIT: Ignore the above, apparently it might actually be half decent after all. :haha: Thanks for the correction Red.
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On a more serious note, there is a reason why most high quality power supplies have long warranties -- its because they can stand up to enthusiast usage in heavily overclocked, high current drawing systems 24/7 for years without letting go. Corsair for example offer a 7 year warranty on their VX and AX series PSU's. That in itself says a lot for an enthusiast grade unit designed to be pushed hard.

You will also find that higher quality units will offer better efficiency costing your less money in electric. It goes without saying that power supplies are the most overlooked aspect of a system build. My advice (and no doubt anyone else worth their salt) will be to invest in a high quality PSU from day one. It might cost more, but in the long run you will have a far better, more reliable, trouble-free product for years to come.

 

[red1776]

Most likely because the components used to produce it are nowhere near as good as other quality units, because it would probably melt into a puddle before hitting 1000w load (unlike quality units) and if that wasn't enough, it probably has power delivery about as smooth as the oscillation of AC current, yes you guessed it, unlike most high quality units.

1000w (not that it would be achievable I'd imagine) is also massive overkill, will be horrendously inefficient and will consequently cost you a fortune to power from the mains.

Its entirely possible it might like up to its "Lightening" model designation when it blows up though.

you guys need to keep up with the times.
Rosewill PSU's are not what they were a few years ago.
Johnny Guru is a great site for PSU testing/reviews. The lightening series consists of a 800w,1000w, and a 1300w. They are now using all Japanese/solid polymer caps and have very good ripple suppression.
the lightening series is not a bad PSU at all.

(although I'm sure Leeky could find a way to set fire to it :wave:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=258

 

[Leeky]

I could find a way of igniting even non-combustible materials -- it's a special skill! :haha:

I stand corrected. Still wouldn't buy one though. :haha:

P.S. Most of my post is still valid though.

 

[pingpongmury]

Ha, how about Cougar PSU's? It's a little cheaper than the Rosewill I found, but will it blend?... I mean stand up to the competition? Hah I guess Leeky knows his stuff when it comes to burning things, being a 'PC Arsonist and Moderator' lol

 

[DKRON]

Ha, how about Cougar PSU's? It's a little cheaper than the Rosewill I found, but will it blend?...

haha will it blend, best show ever

 

[red1776]

Ha, how about Cougar PSU's? It's a little cheaper than the Rosewill I found, but will it blend?... I mean stand up to the competition? Hah I guess Leeky knows his stuff when it comes to burning things, being a 'PC Arsonist and Moderator' lol

Indeed ping, i recently started offering this lee-K series build to my customers!

*** I had to drag it out again leek ***

 

[pingpongmury]

LMAO! " Warranty Void if used"

 

[Leeky]

Indeed ping, i recently started offering this lee-K series build to my customers!

*** I had to drag it out again leek ***

Gotta love that picture!

I like this one too:

Creating flames, blowing up stuff and generally destroying things is what I do best. Although on another note I'm equally good at fixing things -- its just not as much fun! :haha:

Though I have to say this Q6600 has lived up to my cannibalistic tendencies for several years now. Just a shame my last system it actually replaced was wiped out by that PSU failure. :haha: I can live with losing most of the stuff, but I'm still pissed it took out my 256GB SSD.

 

[red1776]

Geezus, a 256GB SSD then was a hunk of change, still is actually.

 

[Leeky]

Was well over £600 when I paid for it. Though in hindsight if I knew back then what I know today about it making very little difference to gaming I wouldn't have bothered. Still, that failed PSU wiped out everything except for one mechanical hard disk and my DVD R/W drive. Everything else was destroyed.

Was only a newer version of a Core2Quad system with a Q8300, but I lost a GTX280, that SSD, two other hard disks, the motherboard CPU, RAM, and obviously the PSU.

Been steadily building it back up since. Despite using the older backup Q6600 and the older Abit AW9D-Max board its going quite well still. Even better now I've added a HD6870 to the mix. Will grab a new motherboard, another 8GB of Corsair RAM and a i7 3930K shortly though once prices and stock settle down.

 

[LinkedKube]

once prices and stock settle down.

Oh, boy, not if AMD drops the ball in 1st quarter of next year.

 

[Leeky]

I'll have it well before then anyway. :haha:

 

[oldikes]

I would get a better quad core phenom, as hardly any programs use quad core let alone hex core.
Plus, the quad core, if i remember, does run a bit faster on most applications.

 

[red1776]

I would get a better quad core phenom, as hardly any programs use quad core let alone hex core.
Plus, the quad core, if i remember, does run a bit faster on most applications.

On what planet is this?
Have a look at game reviews over the last year or so. Not to mention non game software.

 

[pingpongmury]

On what planet is this?
Have a look at game reviews over the last year or so. Not to mention non game software.

I'll have it well before then anyway. :haha:

(Quotes Unrelated)

I finally decided on a rig and am having a bit of trouble enabling SLI =[
System info:
M/B: ASUS Crosshair V
CPU: AMD Phenom IIx6 1100T
GPU: (2x) ASUS GTX570 DCII
PSU: Corsair HX850W
RAM: 8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

I cannot for the life of me get SLI to enable on this meddling machine.. It's driving me insane.. When I go into nVidia Control Panel and click "Maximize 3D Performance", and then apply, the screen immediately goes black and when it returns, the resolution is reduced to 1280x1024 (can't be put any higher in display settings) and the dialogue "The setup has changed. Update the SLI configuration." appears, and the card in the lower PCI-E slot shows a "Code 43" in Device manager.

 

[pingpongmury]

On what planet is this?
Have a look at game reviews over the last year or so. Not to mention non game software.

I'll have it well before then anyway. :haha:

(Quotes Unrelated)

I finally decided on a rig and am having a bit of trouble enabling SLI =[
System info:
M/B: ASUS Crosshair V
CPU: AMD Phenom IIx6 1100T
GPU: (2x) ASUS GTX570 DCII
PSU: Corsair HX850W
RAM: 8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

I cannot for the life of me get SLI to enable on this meddling machine.. It's driving me insane.. When I go into nVidia Control Panel and click "Maximize 3D Performance", and then apply, the screen immediately goes black and when it returns, the resolution is reduced to 1280x1024 (can't be put any higher in display settings, though the control panel says it's set to 1920x1080), the control panel is locked up, the dialogue "The setup has changed. Update the SLI configuration." appears, and the card in the lower PCI-E slot shows a "Code 43" in Device manager. (regardless of which card is in it)

I have tried two different drivers (285.62 and 290.53beta), both with clean installs, and running Driver Sweeper. I have also tried switching the cards around, as well as a different SLI bridge, with no improvement. So both cards are good, and it doesn't seem to be the bridge.

The 570's are tri-slot, so I had to skip over a PCI-E, could it be that W7 is looking for the card on the second PCi-E rather than the 3rd? Both cards are recognized though, and I don't seem to have this problem until i try to enable SLI.

Any ideas or suggestions? I'm stumped.... and very... very frustrated. ha
I'll try putting the lower card down one PCI-E slot, see if that helps.

Again, thank you guys for your help
-Pat