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Better DVD burner?

By N-Guy
Oct 12, 2006
  1. Jesse_hz

    Jesse_hz TS Maniac Posts: 545

    Lightscribe is a technology that enables you to burn an image on the label side of a disc instead of putting a label on it, but special discs are needed for lightscribe as normal discs won't work with it. More Info

    What I find better may not be what you find better and I also don't have time to compare the specs for the two.
     
  2. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    there are only about 3 co's in world that make dvd burners
    the rest are licensed name brands to specific solutions
    check around you will see that one co uses the firmware from another

    I have had plexwriter supposed to one of the best did not last more than 4 month avr.
    got some cheap nec's still burning away after 2 yrs
    my friends very cheap dvd burner lasted for 2 yrs and burned about 1500 disc's
    I do data recovery and ship about 30 dvd's a week out
    lightscribe is useless tech marketing
    not mentioned is tha area the label is burned to
    where there is no data
     
  3. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    I'm very happy with my Samsung 18x.

    I personally don't put much stock in 'high quality' burners... Even the cheapest of burners will churn out acceptable discs.

    The only benefit to buying something like a $150 Plextor over a $40 Lite-On is benchmarks, in my opinion. :)
     
  4. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    Oh, lightscribe is interesting. It does only black, but it provides a pretty slick, low/med resolution label.

    The downside is it takes 10-30 minutes to actually label your CD, depending on the picture and your drive. If you've got the patience and you're anal enough that you can't write it with a Sharpie and don't mind paying roughly twice as much for media, then Lightscribe is pretty cool .:)
     
  5. N-Guy

    N-Guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 105

    O_O Okay thanks guys, I think I'll just go with the NON-Lightscribe LG version.

    One more question, this one is for you Rick - how does the ink work for the burner? How do you refill it?
     
  6. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    There is no ink. It is 'burned' onto the disc using a laser. All you have to do is flip the DVD media over and begin the label process. The result is simliar in appearence to what's commonly referred to as 'silk screening', which is often on professional CDs.
     
  7. N-Guy

    N-Guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 105

    Oh I see, thanks.
     
  8. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,980   +362

    There is supposed to be a dye layer that the laser burns. It doesn't actually burn the top plastic layer, just to clarify a bit.
     
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,715   +397

    But for how long? I've had 2 lite ons and 1 sony (rebaged lite on) quit on me in dramatic fashion. All 3 failed in some form involving noises that aren't supposed to come out of burners. 1 did it while burning and the other 2 died just spinning a disk. One completely died, another would work intermittently, and the other came back to life after sitting outside the computer for a week.

    My plextor has never caused a problem, and is fairly quiet.
     
  10. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    As a counter argument, I've see my share of dead Plextors. I've even owned a Plextor CD-RW that failed. But... On the other hand, I've owned other optical drives that have failed too. ;) I've certainly seen more OTHER brands fail than Plextor being 'in the field', but that's largely because not many people actually own a Plextor, I imagine.

    But then again... I've also had my well over-used NEC 8x DVD burner for over a few years. It's still working just fine and I use it soooo much for customer backups and personal use. I'll sometimes burn a dozen discs in one sitting. I can't remember the last time I had a coaster. :)

    I would like to think that Plextor makes a better quality drive that lasts longer, but since these drives won't always fail at the same time the same way, it makes it difficult to perform a meaninful emperical test.

    But, I imagine companies that focus on manufacturing things for budget consumers (like Lite-On or NEC) cut corners, which in turn leads to shorter MTBFs. So it makes sense, but who is to say Plextor doesn't cut corners either? Maybe they just charge more so consumers feel confident. :slurp:

    Just thinking out loud.
     
  11. N-Guy

    N-Guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 105

  12. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,715   +397

    Check for DMA mode (as opposed to PIO). Also ensure you have (and it thinks you do) a full version of whatever you are trying to burn with.
     
  13. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,244   +234

    I like my enexpensive NEC ND3520 too. 300+ discs burned and counting...
     
  14. N-Guy

    N-Guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 105

    Thanks for the reply, but how do I do that?
     
  15. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,715   +397

    Device Manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers. Check whichever channel its on.
     
  16. N-Guy

    N-Guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 105

    Oh yeah it was on DMA.

    It's sorta fixed now. I'm testing the burner on Sonic Record Now which reads 1x maxium speed but it's burning faster than it. More like... 16x ?
    It shows higher speed on the Nero I installed from the software disc it came with, but odd it didn't with my previous Nero installation. The menu options look exactly the same. Ah well, I guess it works. It just doesn't display the proper burning speed on some software ^^

    Thanks for the support.
     
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