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BSOD and Rebooting => A8V / AMD64 3000+ / 2x512 Kingston DDR400 / nVidia AGP FX 5500

By Hackiller
Oct 3, 2005
  1. Hi guys,

    I build my computer some days ago and I was with no problems.
    But after I tried to play GTA 3 and FIFA 2006, for example, it beggins crashing.
    I can't play more than 2 minutes in a game and my computer gets frozen or crashed.
    After this, it starts giving me BSOD errors even in Windows XP (not in a game).
    Like I said, my system is:

    Windows XP SP2
    A8V / AMD64 3000+ / 2x512 Kingston DDR400 / nVidia AGP FX 5500

    Here are the minidumps... all them...

    http://seringueira.din.uem.br/~gilcio/minidump.zip

    I hope someone can analyze this minidumps and tell me what I have to do.
    I'm testing memories, but I think that aren't them.
    It isn't really getting hot. About 37 Celsius CPU, 30 Celsius Motherboard and 39 Celsius VGA.

    What should I do?
    I've already tried update some drivers, but it didn't work too.

    Help me, please!!!

    Thanks,

    Cheers,

    Gilcio Grella
     
  2. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994

    Hi HacKiller,

    I've investigated your minidumps and the culprit is faulty ram.

    Suggestion
    1. Reseat the memory stick to another memory slot
    2. Downclock the ram
    3. Clean the dust inside the computer case
    4. Make sure that the ram is compatible to the motherboard

    If it still crashes, diagnostic which memory stick is faulty
    1. Take out one memory stick. If windows does not crash, the removed memory stick is faulty.
    2. If you have only one memory stick, replace the ram
     
  3. Hackiller

    Hackiller TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hm, curious things...

    Maybe some good news...

    I've tried changing RAM slots, letting just one memory, using no dual channel, but anyway it continues on locking.
    It would be so bad luck having 2 memories with problems.
    So, like I saw in some forums, I tried changing memory timings and apparently the machine didn't get BSOD anymore on Windows.
    But the problem with games, persists.
    I installed Windows XP again and with no drivers, my game continues on freezing.
    I updated nvidia drivers, no luck.
    I updated all via drivers and all another drivers, no luck yet.
    So, I decided starting playing with some VGA stuff.
    My videocard is AGP 8x and my motherboard supports AGP 8x.
    But, just for curious, I tried forcing AGP 4x on BIOS.
    After that, it looks like not locking anymore.
    I played FIFA 06 and GTA 3 for sometime and they did work normally.
    I didn't have enough time to test it, but I'm almost sure that now it's working correctly.
    What could that be?
    Why drecreasing agp slot speed would solve my problem?
    Anyway, I would like to work with AGP at 8x, if possible.
    Any ideas or suggestions?!

    Thanks a lot!
     
  4. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994

    Hi HacKiller,

    I believe that your windows have multiple culprits. Most of your minidumps indicate that it is bad ram. Reseat memory stick resolve the ram problem and then another culprit is display card. After you reduce the AGP from 8x to 4x and no more BSOD. Maybe the video card has temporary hardware problem or it is incompatible with the motherboard. Upgrade the BIOS of the motherboard may resolve problem.

    You can verify my finding by posting all of your system event 1001 and 1003 here.

    4 of your minidumps have the following stack trace and the culprit is ram
    BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 80576b43, b97f6a04, 0}
    Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!IopParseDevice+1e7 )
    STACK_TEXT:
    ec64a8bc 805b3642 86249240 00000000 8525f360 nt!IopParseDevice+0x1e7
    ec64a944 805afb23 00000000 ec64a984 00000240 nt!ObpLookupObjectName+0x56a
    ec64a998 8056a11d 00000000 00000000 64aa3400 nt!ObOpenObjectByName+0xeb
    ec64aa14 8056aa94 853df160 02000000 ec64abb8 nt!IopCreateFile+0x407
    ec64aa70 efc22483 853df160 02000000 ec64abb8 nt!IoCreateFile+0x8e
    ec64ac24 efc292c7 85305018 864f3770 ec64ac58 afd!AfdBind+0x2dc
    ec64ac34 804eddf9 8651edf8 85275e48 806d02d0 afd!AfdDispatchDeviceControl+0x53
    ec64ac44 80573b3a 85275f24 8526c480 85275e48 nt!IopfCallDriver+0x31
    ec64ac58 805749c9 8651edf8 85275e48 8526c480 nt!IopSynchronousServiceTail+0x60
    ec64ad00 8056d326 00000ae0 00000164 00000000 nt!IopXxxControlFile+0x5e7
    ec64ad34 8053c808 00000ae0 00000164 00000000 nt!NtDeviceIoControlFile+0x2a
    ec64ad34 7c90eb94 00000ae0 00000164 00000000 nt!KiFastCallEntry+0xf8

    2 0f your minidumps crash with bugcheck 19 which is also the symptom of faulty ram.
    BugCheck 19, {20, e258b578, e258b578, c000416}
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlpa.exe ( nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+2a0 )
    STACK_TEXT:
    f7a3fd0c 80543c86 00000019 00000020 e258b578 nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x1b
    f7a3fd5c 805073e7 e258b580 00000000 80557838 nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+0x2a0
    f7a3fd8c 80508936 e258b580 00000000 867c2378 nt!MiSegmentDelete+0x331
    f7a3fdac 805c4a06 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!MiDereferenceSegmentThread+0x9e
    f7a3fddc 80540fa2 80508898 00000000 00000000 nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x34
    00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiThreadStartup+0x16

    Only 1 minidump crashes at nVidia Display card driver.
    BugCheck 1000007F, {8, 80042000, 0, 0}
    STACK_TEXT:
    8638dc30 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nv4_mini+0x70f10
     
  5. Hackiller

    Hackiller TS Rookie Topic Starter

    No more minidumps...

    Hi guys,

    Cpc2004, I notice that after I changed the memory timings and got no more BSOD, when I was playing a game and it freezes, windows doesn't create a minidump.
    Like I said before, that minidumps that you analyzed were old minidumps before I played with memories timings.
    So after that, no more BSOD and no minidumps.
    But games are still freezing, so I force AGP 4x and it seems no more freezing.
    Could that be a incompatible problem like you said.
    But, what do you think about being voltage problem?
    My case is a Satellite 511K X-Blade and I was noticing now, that it comes with a 270W power supply.
    Changing the power supply would resolve?
    Setting high vga voltage at 8x would resolve?
    What do you thing about my problem right now.

    Thanks a lot.
     
  6. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,994

    Hi HacKiller,

    I am not a hardware guy. You had better open a new thread at hardware forum.
     
  7. Dood

    Dood TS Rookie

    I found my problem. I had dual channel ddr and the main board was obsolite...all it takes is a BIOS update, but i sugest taking it to a pro to do that, since BIOS updates are extremely dangerous for the mboard...now it runs perfeclty :). If nothing else works, just try updating your BIOS if you have dual channel...or even if not. Doesn`t hurt to try.
     
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