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Building a Computer

By THERAP1ST
Jun 20, 2006
  1. I'm building a computer for the first time, and so far basically what I have done is gone through newegg.com and put together as much of the parts as I can. My budget is $2K, I'll mostly be using this computer for gaming, I need every thing except a mouse and OS(supposedly my friend can legally get me XP pro for $13.99 where he goes to college, if not I can get it for $99). This is what I have so far.


    CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
    Price:$202, $152 after $50 mail in rebate.
    Link
    ORDERED

    HD
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    · Model #: WD2500KS
    · Item #: N82E16822144701
    · $89.99($79.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)
    Link

    Monitor
    HYUNDAI B70A Siver-Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 0.264mm Pixel Pitch - Retail
    Model#: B70A
    Item#: N82E16824179015
    Price: $159.00
    Link


    Mother Board
    ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce SPP 100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
    · Model #: A8N32-SLI Deluxe
    · Item #: N82E16813131568
    · $189.99
    Link

    Processor
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail
    · Model #: ADA4200BVBOX
    · Item #: N82E16819103547
    · $357.00
    · Expected to drop to close to $240 by July 25 2006. Link to story.
    Link


    Video Card
    ASUS EN7900GTX/2DHTV/512M Geforce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Core clock: 650MHz
    DirectX: DirectX 9
    DVI: 2
    Memory Clock: 1600MHz
    Memory Interface: 256-bit
    OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
    PixelPipelines: 24
    TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video Out
    VIVO: No
    Model #: EN7900GTX/2DHTV/512M
    Item #: N82E16814121002
    Link

    CD/DVD Burner
    SONY Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner - OEM
    Model #: DWQ120AB2
    Item #: N82E16827131031
    Price:$35
    Link

    CD Drive
    SONY Black 52X CD-ROM IDE CD-ROM Drive Model CDU5225 - OEM
    Model#: CDU5225 BLK
    Item#: N82E16827101134
    Price: $14.99
    Link

    Case
    XION Ultimate Engineering XON-002 Black/Silver SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450 Watt (P4 & AMD Ready) Power Supply - Retail
    Model #: XON-002
    Item #: N82E16811208004
    Price:$64.99
    Link
    ORDERED


    Keyboard
    Logitech Ultra X 967353-0403 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys 6 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard - OEM
    Model #: 967353-0403
    Item #: N82E16823126135
    Price:$21.99
    Link


    Power
    Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL - Retail
    Price:$83.99, $68.99 after $15 mail in reabate
    Link
    ORDERED

    EDIT:Monitor and PSU updated.
    EDIT 2: RAM, PSU, and Case ordered.
     
  2. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Without delving heavy into your parts, the one thing I noticed most is the power supply. It's great to get an aftermarket supply, but I would bump that up to something with more power. I wouldn't trust a $33.99 power supply. Quality starts around $60-$130.
    Others may have different opinions on the matter.
     
  3. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    I've updated the Monitor and the PSU(500 watts, cheap though).
     
  4. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    So far so good, don't know anything about the quality of the power supply and LCD makers though. Just read the reviews.

    She should be a devil of a system!
     
  5. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    Dont go cheap on the power supply. you will regret it later. especially of your cheapo PSU goes bad and fries your nice new exspensive components. get a goood quality power supply like antec.
     
  6. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

  7. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Truepower series is very good. It's liked around here. Nice choice.
     
  8. KingCody

    KingCody TS Evangelist Posts: 992   +8

    the power supply has the abilty to destroy your entire system at once, and a cheap brand like "XCLIO" is about as generic as it gets. if you read the specs on that PSU you will see that there is no overload protection on the 12v rail (very bad), what that means is that if you draw too much power from it, then POOF!! say goodbye to your expensive newly built system :eek:

    do not, i repeat do not be cheap about buying a power supply, they are not all the same. as a new builder, it is easy to assume that it's not an important component... but any experienced computer builder will tell you how important a quality PSU.

    you cannot go by the wattage rating on cheap PSUs. that 500w XCLIO psu will never provide 500 watts. my antec TP2.0-380 has the same specs per rail and Antec rates it at 360watts.
    here's a nice guide on quality PSUs in every price range, and also which brands to stay away from.

    If money is an issue why you won't buy a good PSU, then why not ditch the sound card? you don't need it. your mobo already has 8 channell surround built in which is good enough for most people. I could never justify spending $172 on a sound card.
     
  9. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    Wow I'm a huge noob, uhmm I didn't know that my mother board had a surround sound built in, awsome F the sound card. Yes!!! $172 off my total.
     
  10. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    Take the money you saved on the sound card and buy a nice 19" LCD.
     
  11. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    I might or I will just keep it and use if for the shipping cost.
     
  12. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    You best change your RAM too. You mobo specs say "DDR Standard DDR 400 (PC 3200)" not DDR2 etc...
    Switch to the Corsair XMS Extreme, or a different model OCZ. But match what the mobo takes.

    Does your keyboard choice include a mouse? Or do you have one? Then consider a keyboard/mouse combo. I personaly don't like wireless, I would avoide a wireless kit. But just so you have a mouse :)

    What about speakers?

    Then consider bumping your 2nd optical drive from a plain CD-ROM to a DVD player. A CD-ROM is next to useless anymore except for simple copies of playing audio CDs. But a DVD player gives you some extra functions for not much more.

    Lastly, don't forget a good gamers mouse pad for your cool new mouse :) Like a Ratz Pad or something. You know, just to round out the package.

    Enjoy!
     
  13. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    Cool I just ordered my RAM(2GB Corsair XMS), my PSU(Antec TPII-550ATX RTL), and my case(XION XON-002 BLK/SIL 450W RT). I didn't pick a mouse key combo b/c I got logitec optical gaming mouse for my b-day last january. Some one on another forum suggested to me to get just a CD drive for games but I'll take your advice over his b/c I don't think he knew a hole lot about it. And I forgot that I haden't listed the speakers I was looking at so here they are. =)

    Logitech THX Z-5300e 280 Watts RMS 5.1 Speaker – Retail
    Price: $134.99
    Link

    Pretty good deal considering I saw them at best buy today for $205.

    And thank you to every one who has posted and helped me with this. *offers plate of cookies and glass of milk too all*
     
  14. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Hey, good news, hope it comes together for you.

    I assume you will also build the thing yourself? Please please please watch your static!! If you zap something and the parts don't work, you will cry like a baby :)
    What I like to do is actually PLUG in the power supply in the case, but have the toggle switch to OFF. This way the entire case is grounded and all you have to do is touch any metal on the case to ground yourself.
    Some people use wrist straps to an outlet, which is cool, but you may not have the same ground as your case. I think, because your are installing the parts IN the case, you should be grounded to the case, so it all has the same ground. In short, attach your wrist strap to the case when it's plugged in.

    As for the speakers, hey, if it's THX, I'm sure it will rock!
     
  15. CrossFire851

    CrossFire851 TS Rookie Posts: 766

  16. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    I just noticed something the mobo I have selected dosen't say Athlon 64 X2 under supporered CPU types in the info given by newegg.com. Link , scroll down to specifications.
     
  17. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    I may be totally mistaken but I think it will still work fine. I don't think the socket has to support a dual core CPU.

    Anybody?
     
  18. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    You might want to check the mobo makers website and see what they say about the board. they may even have a bios update that enables support for the 64x2.
     
  19. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,404

  20. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    Awsome, thank you. =)
     
  21. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    Do you guys have any suggestions on cooling devices or will the fans built in to the case be enough? Oh and the Ratzpad is looking pretty cool, I might get that depending on how much the total shipping cost for it all is.
     
  22. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    Cooling is a tricky subject, you'll get a lot of different replies.

    My simple advice is to use all the stock cooling you get. Have at least one exhaust fan and one intake. More the merrier.
    If you have more then that, great. Just install a temp monitor (motherboard utility CD usually has one). And if you start to get hot, add more. If there just is no cooling it, consider liquid cooling, but that gets expensive.
     
  23. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    New Question

    Do you guys have any suggestions on usb dirves/ports? BTW I would prefer it be able to come out the front of the case.
     
  24. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,994

    Make sure the case you buy has two front USB 2.0 ports. if the case you selected doesnt take a look at the antec P160.
     
  25. THERAP1ST

    THERAP1ST TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 57

    Yeah... about that... I already bought and received the case, and I don't see any front usb 2.0 ports.
     
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