Thanks, will start learning c right away lol, s didnt want to post anothertopic, is anyone here good in visual basic coz i keep getting a weird error with my irc client, it would connect succesfully , it can receice commands even send some and those are leave , join and quit thats all the commands it can send but when i try to send something else like MSG user bla bla bla it the server gives me and unknown command error, if anyone could help me out i would appreciate that, ill send the code by request