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Choosing a P4 (Help a noob please :D)

By TIMMY
Jul 14, 2004
  1. Help a noob please :D

    Hey guys, what's up.
    I just recently bought a refurbished 2.8 HT off of newegg cause I was on a stretch for money. I have a friends 2.8 HT right now but he's gonna be needing it back soon cause he's building a shuttle.

    Well to get to the point...
    I've got a few questions.

    First of all, I'm gonna have enough money to buy a new 2.8 HT but I was wanting a new monitor but oh well :(

    So should I return my refurbished processor and get another refurbished one? Or should I just return it and buy a new one?

    Here are some specs of some processors I was wondering about:

    Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
    (limit 10 per customer)

    - Specifications -

    Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading
    Core: Prescott
    Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz
    FSB: 800MHz
    Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/1MB
    Voltage: 1.25-1.525V
    Process: 0.09Micron
    Socket: Socket 478
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
    Warranty: 3-year MFG
    Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)

    $179.00

    Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
    (limit 10 per customer)

    - Specifications -

    Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading
    Core: Northwood
    Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz
    FSB: 800MHz
    Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
    Voltage: 1.525V
    Process: 0.13Micron
    Socket: Socket 478
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
    Warranty: 3-year MFG
    Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)

    $180.00

    What are the ups and down of both? Why is one 1 dollar less than the other when it has bigger caches? These are all off of www.newegg.com btw, THNX A BUNDLE!!!

    Thread title edited, please use more descriptive titles in the future.
    --Mictlantecuhtli
     
  2. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    1st is Prescott, 2nd is Northwood. Prescott runs hotter and isn't much better yet, as applications don't use SSE3 much. It's cheaper probably because Intel wants customers to move to Prescott.
     
  3. STK

    STK TS Rookie Posts: 138

    Yes, and the Northwood is running .13 microns as compared to Prescotts .9.
     
  4. TIMMY

    TIMMY TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 27

    So what are microns? Is the bigger the number the better?

    Edit: and if .09 microns was worse, would it still be better to get it cause of the bigger cache?
     
  5. STK

    STK TS Rookie Posts: 138

    Yes, more microns is better, but i dont know whether its better then cache. The cache and micron difference just about cancel each other out probably. There is not going to be a huge difference in the performance between these two computers.
     
  6. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,330   +277

    Actually - fewer microns is better - it is a measure of size - and you want the design to be as small as possible. Under normal circumstances smaller size reduces heat - but not in the case of Prescotts since a few other thing have changed.

    A good place to look for performance differences is here:
    http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040322/prescott-06.html

    Remember that the E models are the Prescotts. The performance differences are really going to be based on what you're going to be doing with the machine.
     
  7. STK

    STK TS Rookie Posts: 138

    Edit: Oh, I was mislead.
     
  8. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,330   +277

    There is less and less. They went from .13 to .09
     
  9. TIMMY

    TIMMY TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 27

    ok, well im basically gonna be gaming and running other programs. but i mean if a computer is great for gaming it's gonna be just as great to run the programs that i'll be running
     
  10. Raiders

    Raiders TS Rookie Posts: 118

    IMO,,if your gonna go gaming,,go AMD

    Jus my $.02
     
  11. TIMMY

    TIMMY TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 27

    Yeah i kinda figured that much, but i had a friend who was selling a system so i bought it :\
     
     
  12. Dottom

    Dottom TS Rookie

    You don't have to buy system cause ur friend want to sell, but buy on the perfomances of the said system & spec & config will determind that.
     
  13. tha smokah

    tha smokah TS Rookie

    did he sell the system for a AMD A64?
     
  14. TIMMY

    TIMMY TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 27

    no he sold:
    ati 9600pro
    xdreamer case w/ 350w psu
    abit is7-e motherboard
    512 pc3200 ram
    cdrw n floppy drive
    and the uber cool laser cut m16 fan grill!!! lol
    only for like 300 bucks, so i thought it was a good deal and bought it
     
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