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  1. I used to be an avid firefox user, when chrome came out I laughed and thought it would never be good as firefox, this was a while ago when firefox was at a much lower version/revision. My opinion has now changed, firefox is so bloated and slow, even on a good pc, chrome works well on all the computers I have even old ones with poor cpu's. I see no benefit to using it anymore, I guess customization could be one example, but even then there is nothing in firefox that I really want in chrome. It's a shame really, I used to think it was the best browser out there. :(
  2. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    ^ Same here, FF does feel more and more bloated with every new release, whereas Chrome feel lean, as if it's got no more code than what it needs in it. Now, if it comes to lightness, then Midori is the leanest and most responsive browser I've seen, Midori is also based on WebKit (I think), so it shares some code with Chrome, but the Midori devs, like a good butcher with a good knife, trim all the fat off of it. Chrome's got a great selection of extensions too, nothing to envy Firefox in that department.
  3. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

  4. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    Firefox is hosed by virtue of Google's ridiculous & bizarre version numbering system. Firefox is also at Google's mercy for money to continue its development. Explained in human behavioral terms, the relationship between Google and Mozilla is at once incestuous and homicidal, with Google being the aggressor.

    At the end of the day, I'm willing to accept a little bit of a performance hit, to not have that Google spyware s*** on my PC, period.

    Does anybody think Google is going to allow you to kill its own cookies? Because that's just plain naive.
  5. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Learninmypc, it's a good thing to think about online security, but your take seems a tad extreme. Yes, it's good you turned Java off, I don't even install Java in my machine. All tracking technologies sort of work the same way regardless of what browser you use. I think however that Chrome does a better job at sandboxing and keeping things separate, Chrome comes with its own Flash plugin, which for me is a big plus, because I really hate Adobe's Falsh installer. Now, if a plugin, whatever it may be, crashes in Chrome it's an entirely separate process that will not bring your session down, etc.. etc.. My point is that this focus on security may be a bit excessive, and it's preventing you from using a browser that is, again... IMHO, technologically superior, and ergonomically superior.
  6. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Probably not, but that's why tools need to be combined, it's a good think to use a good hosts file, this one's a good choice, and Hostsman (a hosts file manager, DL from Majorgeeks) will help DL and isntall that particular hosts file to your PC, it'll help you keep crap away from your browser.

    Aditionally, there are extensions that block stuff, like tracking cookies from sources not listed in the hosts file, DoNotTrackMe is an example, and it'll block even things Google would not want you to block.

    So, yes, you have to make some moves and adjustments to get Chrome going, but the same is valid for Firefox. Now, if you are purists you guys could always try Chromium instead, which is what Chrome is based on, before Google slaps its brand on it. Chromium is an open source software project.
     
  7. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    Google wants Chrome on everybody's computer, so they can track everybody, and monopolize all available ad revenues.

    In fact, it's now a "drive-by download", by virtue of Google seeding it along with typical free software. Most notably, "Adobe Flash"!

    Again you're welcome to it. But nobody's ever going to sell it to me. If FF went away, I'd go to IE long before I even considered Chrome.
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  8. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    It's a legit way to see it. I just to me FF feels like taking a constipated crap upside down, and Chrome runs smoothly, so even if Google's intentions are to track me, all right, let 'em track me, it's a little thing to pay for the performance gain, and yet they really do not track me, because I'm on top of things.
  9. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

    @captaincranky, Thank you. I just ran my SAS again & still got those sweet google cookies (ugh).
    @Duckula22, in Firefox & SeaMonkey I have java turned off(disabled) & can still go to all my websites with no problem, NOT in Google Chrome.
    I do take my online security dead serious because unlike some, I can't just go to the nearest computer store & buy another pc because I messed up or followed somebodies advice.
    I followed a persons advice 7 years ago & I was no longer able to get online.
    So until google cleans up their act,(probably never) I'll stick with Firefox & SeaMonkey. Thank you.
  10. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    All right, no need to get all worked up. I just realized that when you wrote Java above, you may have meant Javascript, they are different things. Anyway, I thought sites that require javascript turned on do so regardless of one's choice of browser. Fellow, learninmypc, do you know your way around a PC system very well? I ask because it seems you do not, and that's why you exercise extra caution, which is fine.

    As an anecdotal bit, I allow myself to remove some protections, because I add some other good habits in that most people do not, for instance... I do regular backups, so a virus could mess up my partitions badly, and I'm still all right.

    I run things sandboxed in different ways, sometimes I use sandboxie, sometimes VirtualBox. I choose the source of the stuff I download, for instace I'll DL from Majorgeeks, but I will give Softonic the finger. I'm not click happy, I read stuff first. People I used to fix their PCs for (don't anymore) would just franticly click OK to whatever was infront of them to get the freaking popup window out of their way, etc... etc...

    Additionally I have my system partition imaged with a partition imaging software, I can restore my PC in 90 seconds after a small or big screw up on my part. See, it's all about the global approach, I optimize globally, so that I won't have o sacrifice comfort for a negligible gain in security. It's just my take. Respectfully.
  11. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

    @Duckula22, This is not my first experience with Google Chrome in here. Yes, I agree it may be faster, but as far as tracking goes, it probably can't be stopped because I've tried probably everything as you can see here http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/question-about-google-chrome.182435/
    I'm not going to sit here & debate with anybody whether or not its a good browser because in my opinion it depends on each individual.
    I've got friends that swear by it & because of that, I'm not going to waste my time on their pc's anymore.
    When google quits tracking its users, I might reconsider, but till then, no thanks.
    I don't want a google gps on me following me.Have a good day.:)
  12. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

  13. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

    I've used it in the past but got rid of it too. I'm happy with FF & SM, thank you.
  14. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    No problem, man! I was just trying to help. I saw somebody recommended the Comodo alternative on that thread you mentioned above, and that reminded me of Iron.
  15. Duckula22 Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Somebody mentioned Palemoon on that thread of yours, I've known about it for some time, I just installed it and gave it a spin, I liked it, it feels way more responsive that Firefox 18, and it doesn't leak memory (apparently), so it stays in my PC as secondary browser.
  16. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

    Duckula22, I've tried many others browsers but have always returned to FF & SeaMonkey because they are super fast on my pc
    & very good. SeaMonkey is my default browser.
    Since google enjoys tracking people, I have no use for it. Thanks for the help. l8r.:)enuf said.
  17. JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,420   +305

    Another useless upgrade in my opinion. I want a new fresh look, but the added speed is nice.
  18. JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,420   +305

  19. PC EliTiST Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    Yeah, pal... Turning off 3rd-Party Cookies ain't enough anymore. You need ad blocker with main, privacy and antisocial lists in order to effectively block all the nasty cookies. In Fx works perfectly, I don't know about Chrome. I don't trust as much this function on Chrome. In short, I'm not sure Google would give us easily the ability to block all these. But I haven't try, to be honest.

    The fact is, when Mozilla came up, it pushed the progress while IE was in idle. Now, the same happened with Google. Chrome pushed the progress even more while Mozilla was a bit lax and sloppy lately. Thanks to Chrome we get even better Firefox, faster.
  20. learninmypc TechSpot Guru Posts: 3,160   +111

    I solved the problem. I removed Google Chrome & WILL NOT re install it since they love to track their users.