I was thinking about the general methods of cooling, wondering if its actually worth it... Heres what I think: I have a water cooling kit (soon to have a VGA adaptor included) more for the sound than temps. But I thought... well, why else would anyone want pletier elements? A hour or so research later... -7c temp on an idle cpu is possible with something that could cost no more than $90 ($60 Maze4 CPU waterblock and $30 pelt element) and a day of (skilled) handywork. But whats the point? Surely if you can keep temps on say a CPU between 20C and 50C and still clock as much as you want stably, there are NO advatages of lower temps. Right? I have my X2 4400 at 2.6 (+400mhz) How, if temps stay within decent range, would it be possible do clock higher with something like pelts or similar (excludes v-mods or other extremes)?! I think there is far too much emphasis on cooling PC components beyond reasonable levels. Once I have my VGA maze4 then Ill be happy as my pc will be silent and live as long as I would want ANY PC to. Opinions?