Ok so Bill will send out his men to shoot me. I have given m$ too much of my precious life already. What I am trying to do is make a copy of a copy of xp office that has been altered to not require the imput of the codenos, I made a version using both nero cd copy and the built in xp roxio version via a copy to docs that will only work on the re-writer and not the normal cd. Also and more annoying, why will nero suddenly not copy music cds saying that they are protected. I dont want the original in my dirty car.