Crashing Problems - Any advice much appreciated.

By Graeme111
Nov 2, 2006
  1. Hi,

    Recently formatted PC and every game I've tried.. Oblivion, FEAR, Planetside, Dawn of War, Dark Messiah (this is by far the worst) all crash on me the same way sooner or later.

    I run a AMD64 3200+, gig of ram, 7800gt and only had these problems with dark messiah before formatting -- I'm pretty sure ive installed all drivers I need... graphics, mobo, processor, sound an all that jazz.

    The games run as fine as my system should run them (most at about 60FPS with settings I'd play them on) then suddenly totally lock up - screen freezes and sound loops about 1 second of itself for abit then just merges into a big horrible BUZZ OF DEATH that rattles through my room then PC hisses and what not then decides to reset.

    At a lost end -- dreading its an evil hardware problem but I really really hope not because I hate going in there and fiddling about with stuff I dont quite understand haha -- I put it together myself.. probably half the reason this is happening. Like I said though ran fine before format which makes it strange.

    Thanks in advance!
  2. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    Check your system temperatures, especially GPU and CPU temps. Dowload a program like Everest or SIW to check them.
  3. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    I have a question, where do u get a processor driver?
  4. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    For an AMD or Intel CPU?
  5. Graeme111

    Graeme111 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    just google search for drivers... Temps on PC are ok -- im pretty sure its a driver problem, only happens with graphical apps... racking brain for all I should have. Got latest Nforce4 AMD 32bit and the 94.47 nvidia drivers arghgh driving me crazy -- got Dark Messiah and new Dawn of War Exp. waiting!
  6. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    AMD processor
  7. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    Go to AMD's website and download the Cool & Quiet driver.

    What's your PSU make, model, wattage, and amperage on the +12V rails?
    Look at the PSU's sticker, that info should be there.

    Regards :wave:
  8. Graeme111

    Graeme111 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hey Wolfram - sorry its been afew months - started uni and not had a chance to keep at this prob... forgot about it infact. Fired up Oblivion for a quick spin and PC harshly reminded me with a crash. STALKER coming soon need it ready! Here's info if your still about these boards - help would be v much appreciated.

    Make: Sweex
    Model: BA000110
    Wattage: 650w
    Amps over +12V rails:25A

    Edit: Oops! this isn't exclusivley for Wolf -- if anyone has any ideas chuck them at me please : D
  9. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    Hello again!

    25A should be enough for a 7800GT card.

    Did you check that?
  10. Computergeek564

    Computergeek564 TS Rookie Posts: 59

    can i ask where do u get these programs? and could you give us the link for them?
  11. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

  12. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,964   +355

    Google is your friend.

    Edit: Or you can click on Howard's link above.
  13. Computergeek564

    Computergeek564 TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Hasnt Lavalys stopped the free edition of Everest?
  14. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Lavalys has stopped supporting the free Everest programme, but it`s still available. click on the link I gave you.

    Regards Howard :)
  15. tweakboy

    tweakboy TS Guru Posts: 467

    The crash your experiencing is because the GPU is getting too hot, Can you give us your load temps on your graphics card,

    Most probably over heating, Possibly your PSU can't handle the load,,
  16. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    That PSU should be good enough. But you're right tweakboy, the GPU may be running too hot, those 7800GT's aren't exactly cool running cards.
  17. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    post the everest reports on your sensors page regarding Temps and Voltages, minus the debugging info.

    Have a read of my troubleshooting guide.. it may help somewhat..
  18. Graeme111

    Graeme111 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hey - Here's reports:

    Mobo - 29 (celsius)
    CPU - 69
    Aux - 25
    GPU - 46
    HDD - 37

    Presuming thats too high a temp for processor? not sure about GPU... will buy a new cooling system for proc if so - the old one was some dodgy third party thing that claimed to cool 50% better haha.
  19. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    Opps, 69 C is too high for an Athlon 64 3200+. Something is wrong with your CPU's HSF.
    Try to remove it, apply new, fresh thermal grease, and attach the HSF again. Also, clean the whole motherboard and heatsinks using a can of compressed air.

    Regards :wave:
  20. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    well most third party coolers are better than stock.. but thats as long as you keep it clean and apply it properly..
  21. Graeme111

    Graeme111 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Still not fixed problem.

    I've tried all Wolfram's ideas - its definetly a cooling issue as you say but im totally stumped.

    After applying thermal paste pretty much perfectly (so it seemed) a couple of times and still having cooling problems I had an experienced being give it a go ... still same shutdown on graphically intense programs.

    Figured it must be air circulation as my old case had a pitiful fan and panels missing everywhere - new dual 120mm fan case and still same problem.

    Heatsink is an acer64 had worked for about a year fine, seems to be last hazard area to check. I just don't believe anything is wrong with it though; it's connected to the processor fine; fan is running at ~2100rpm and it's still a chunk of copper and aluminium.

    Getting so frustrated now - been standing strong against this problem myself so long now to avoid money hungry beasts but alas I fear it was all in vain.

    This is a final cry for help before this epic battle is handed to the bloodthirsty hell spawn of a computer shop... ready to tip me upside down and shake me for all I'm worth - quite possibly resulting in cardiac arrest on my part.
  22. Graeme111

    Graeme111 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Found problem - It's 7800GS overheating - if it exceeds 67celsius it fails, noticed this while playing stalker with Speedfan up. Not sure if this is a due to a cooling problem or the card is over-working rather than adaptively degrading frame rate to keep processes within capability. Runs Stalker VERY well - even on very high settings before it crashes - perhaps too well so I'm thinking it's the latter.

    Either way gonna fire up the warranty and get it shipped back for a new one because case cooling is overly ample. Should put an end to this thread finally!
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