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Data plans made US carriers more money than voice services in 2013

By Justin Kahn
Mar 14, 2014
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  1. Data usage has become extremely popular as we all know, but in the fourth quarter of 2013 it became a larger revenue source for mobile carriers than voice usage.

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  2. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Addict Posts: 291   +55

    USA mobile services are an absolute rip off, sure America is a big country to cover but there are millions of customers

    I pay in the UK £8:88 including 20% tax
    Unlimited landline
    Fair use data
    300 Mins
    300 Text
    admittedly I use my own phone but even so.
     
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  3. Win7Dev

    Win7Dev TS Evangelist Posts: 560   +172

    Is that about $15 then? Cheapest options for me are about $45 a month if I want data at all.
     
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  4. Holotus

    Holotus TS Enthusiast Posts: 68   +9

    It should only cost the $10 a month for unlimited everything. People here in America are retarded, they just accept it because the duopolies convinced the public this is the best they can do.
     
  5. umbala

    umbala TS Addict Posts: 169   +145

    It's easy to call people retarded, but what are you to do if you don't have much choice? You go to one carrier and they want $45 a month for what you need and then you go to another and they want the same $45 a month, and so on. What are you going to do? Not get a plan at all? How would doing so lower the inflated rates some people are currently paying? I don't get it.
     
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  6. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,319   +709

    Its not just wireless prices that are insane in America. Almost everything is now thanks to the exploding welfare state and the insatiable greed of the so-called 1%. The working class gets it from both sides and has no voice whatsoever. Frankly I don't see any way around a complete economic collapse within the next 15 years..and probably sooner than later.
     
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  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,688   +1,879

    I find my biggest outrage in the fact the the welfare class have the most children, and of course the government has to pick up the the tab for their relentless and unrepentant breeding habits.

    But what really pisses me off, is they do the most running of their yaps, about the quality of schools, and how their children are "entitled" to the best education possible, at of course, no cost to them.

    But, the school taxes are tied to real estate taxes, which of course they don't pay. The singles and middle class get banged up twice, (*), to educate an entire segment of the population we'd be better off without.

    @psycros How was that, did I help articulate your rage to your satisfaction?

    (*) Actually four times, federal, state, local, and real estate taxes, are all dipped into for education.
     
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  8. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    So are you blaming high data charges on Welfare? Surely it is more down to the broken capitalist system in the West. So many of the big companies are now owned by venture capitalists who export the profits offshore and strip the capital. The Governments are just afraid to challenge these economic bully boys.
     
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,688   +1,879

    In point of fact welfare is to blame. Politicians get the votes to tip an election in their favor, from those welfare recipients.They do so by pushing an agenda couched in pandering to the needs of the "huddled masses yearning to get more government benefits"!

    After they're elected, they pander to the "needs", of large corporate entities. And can you honestly say that the telecoms, aren't "large corporate entities"?

    This is evidenced by the recent rash of, "free cellular phones to the needy".. I doubt he telecoms eat the losses on these giveaways, they're in your data charges.

    I know people in involved in social work, and they tell me the recipients of these free phones, are constantly complaining that they're, "not given enough free minutes"!

    And without exaggeration, what they're doing is sitting on their duffs, stuffing their yaps with carbs, provided by food stamps, and running their yaps pointlessly, and incessantly on their free phones.

    I just have to look out my front window to see one salient use of the cell phone. You use them to call your dealer, once you're in front of his, (or her), front door, in order to not scare the s*** out of them, by not calling before you knock.

    But yeah, America has manage to confuse "utopia", with "dystopia", in a big, big, way.

    But, you've managed to miss predicating welfare interests, on the interests of American big business.
     
  10. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    Well I dare say many Americans believe the simplistic views peddled on Fox News. I don't believe that welfare is the reason for America's or Europes economic woes. It it just a convenient target for the Politicians who allowed the overpaid but vastly under qualified bankers to ruin the economy.

    What is shocking is that these bankers are still earning vast salaries and bonuses but most of the banks are still making losses. what is the greatest follys is the monetarist policy which we have had to suffer in the UK for the past four years.
     
  11. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Addict Posts: 291   +55

    you must note also we don't pay to receive normal text or phone calls to mobile either in the UK
     
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,688   +1,879

    No, it actually isn't. The bankers don't pay taxes to support the welfare state, the middle class does.

    Besides, since we're talking about, "1 percenters" when referring to bankers, even if they did pay taxes commensurate with their incomes, the burden of the welfare state still falls on the shoulders on the middle class, that shrinking rapidly, 80% percent of wherever's population.

    Our large cities now longer have much in the way of manufacturing assets. What they do have, is armies of parasites, such as "accident lawyers", "grief counselors", yeah, and welfare caseworkers.

    Besides, I don't watch Fox News. I do however, live in a place that abounds in welfare abuse.

    The American economy's budget is into the trillions of dollars. All that money you claim the bankers are stealing, is but a drop in the bucket.

    Have you evaluated you news source recently?

    Besides, the American telecoms, are profiting from the fact that Americans have too much free time on their hands, have lost the genetic ability to simply shut their f***ing mouths, and are also too stupid to know how badly they're being ripped off.

    And BTW, there wouldn't have been a recession, if those big, bad, predatory bankers, didn't have the stupidest set of marks in the world to prey on. Can you say, "sub-prime mortgage". Somebody had to be ploddingly stupid enough to, "sign on that dotted line". You betcha, the American public.
     
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  13. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    You are absolutely correct that the middle classes are taking the biggest hit. However I did not accuse the bankers of stealing but of mismanagement. In the States you had your Sub Prime crisis but in the UK most of our banks ended up in public ownership as part of the bail out. In our case the banks failed as their asset base had been allowed to diminish so that they were unable to ride the storm. The recovery is taking a while as they are having to pay millions in compensation in respect of insurance miss selling. Despite this they are still expecting bonuses!

    Judging from your comments I suspect we must have a different interpretation of what constitutes Welfare. In the UK I think the balance is about right. We do pay National Insurance Contributions out of our salary in return we get free healthcare, unemployment benefit and the state pension. Under that systems some benefit more than others but overall it is fair. It is far from perfect and I am concerned about cuts in budgets that will make things worse for all. What we need is for the Government to spend more on capital projects to kickstart a sustainable recovery not one just based on retail.
     
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,688   +1,879

    OK, same here. Our "subprime mortgage " disaster, had to have home buyers complicit in the scheme, before it could ruin our economy. In other words, people who couldn't afford a house, had to go ahead and buy them anyway. And a bunch of greedy mutts, had to lend them the money to get in over their heads.
    The "variable rate" scam, just reared it's head with our people's electric bills. As soon as the citizens of PA were allowed to shop for an electric supplier, platoons of "electricty salesmen" hit the streets with glorious stories of how much people were going to save, by getting their power from," XYZ Power International". And of course, many customers chose a "variable rate plan", because it was so darn cheap in the month they signed the contract. Of course, the coldest month of the year, the price for a KWH of electricity, multiplied by 2 1/2 fold, pushing the normally $300.00 electric bill to $800.00. So yeah, that's the variable rate mortgage ripoff, just applied to a different commodity.

    All of that notwithstanding, considering the level of fraud and theft on the part of bank execs, a suitable punishment for which, should actually be raised to a capital offense.

    This is another reason I have a deep seated hatred of our public broadcasting system. They give people a voice, that tell BS stories like this; "we put $3,000.00 down, on a $400,000.00 house that we can't afford to pay for, and now we're going to sue Wells Fargo for giving us the mortgage". I'd say to them, why don't you skip the lawsuit, and go borrow your next house payment from a Nigerian prince. No one in America is responsible for their own actions. It's always the fault of someone else. You'd think they'd be too embarrassed to have their abject stupidity broadcast, but no, they're entirely shameless.

    My "welfare" is your "dole"

    Your "state pension" is our, "social security". And it too, is supposed to be retirement income. The trouble here is, they're getting illegitimate children put on it at birth. Why, you ask? Because they're, "entitled to it". So, yes really, we have a chunk of the population that effectively retires at birth, and battalions of lawyers that specialize in making it happen for them.

    OK,, a "sustainable recovery", is not entirely possible, within the modern day social structure,employment opportunities, or even the willingness to work, of most modern day Brits or Americans..

    You, or rather we, have nothing but a majority of people that take from the system. If you're not going to support your money with silver or gold, then your have to inject manufactured goods, products for sale abroad, grow stuff on farms, chop down trees, or frack for natural gas. I realize that modern day economics aren't that simple to explain. I also realize that modern economics aren't the gross distortions of fact that economists, politicians, and real estate developers portray them as either. Most of the crap circulating about our economies, makes fairy tales seem like documentaries.

    A "lawyer", is a parasite that drains the system. There are hosts of other employment categories that fit into that same description. In fact, large cities are full to the brim with them. And they siphon off the "currency", that farmers, lumberjacks, fishermen and even oilmen create.

    The world situation created in, "The Hunger Games", really isn't as far from the truth, as most people would like to comfort themselves by believing it is.

    And to put this rant back on topic, telecom execs, and the companies they represent, have become some of the biggest parasites of all!
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2014

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