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Dealing with revenge porn? California wants to help

By dkpope
Oct 15, 2015
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  1. Revenge porn is bad through and through. Not only is it a huge invasion of privacy and breach of trust, it can be very hard to fight back against. Questions such as, “How do I get the images off the Internet?” or “Where can I find help?” aren’t easily answered. There is a lot of legal hoops and bureaucratic tape to slog through, and sometimes that means the images never get taken down.

    On Wednesday, California launched a website to help people who are dealing with revenge porn. State authorities in collaboration with tech leaders hope the site, called a cyber exploitation hub, will give victims, police and companies the resources needed to respond to (and hopefully, prevent) revenge porn.

    The site helps people find a pro bono lawyer and outlines best practices for website owners to protect their visitors. The site also provides guidelines for local law enforcement to follow when dealing with a revenge porn case. And if someone wants to get a photo taken down, the hub directly links to image removal request pages for some popular online communities (including 4chan, About.me, and Snapchat.)

    Although the new hub isn’t a surefire way to fix anything — much of the information provided someone could find on their own — it can help people or agencies get started when they’re not sure what to do next.

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  2. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,541   +2,337

    Pro tip: The best way to avoid revenge porn...is not to send nudes.

    Elite tip: Only consent to nudes that are flattering, thereby ensuring revenge can be parried into a damning critique of your ex's ego.
     
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  3. Hexic

    Hexic TS Addict Posts: 283   +132

    But... but... it's easier to pin my own blame on someone else! And then legally defend my own childish mistake. And win.
     
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  4. Jamesbrah

    Jamesbrah TS Enthusiast Posts: 59   +11

    This isn't the point. If you're comfortable with yourself and want to share pictures with a partner, then it is your right and you shouldn't be judged for it or have those pictures potentially end up online.

    Should we post online your browsing history? You would scream and shout, but I could just say to you "Don't do anything questionable, else it's your own fault."
     
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  5. UprightMonkey

    UprightMonkey TS Rookie

    Pro tip: The best way to avoid computer viruses is to not have a computer!
    Pro tip: The best way to not be set on fire is to avoid wearing flammable clothing!

    Obligatory neckbeard comments are embarrassing and show that somewhere in your mind, you secretly think it's fine for people to carry out revenge porn.
     
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  6. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,541   +2,337

    Verizon wireless uses a supercookie that I haven't bothered to opt out of. They share this with AOL. If you can manage to compromise either database and publish my web trail, feel free to see if I care.

    The idea that someone shouldn't be judged for their decisions is absurd. If you're sending someone compromising pictures and that person isn't a spouse (different property rules), you aren't very bright. Simple as that.

    Terrible analogies and baseless speculation aren't effective ways of taking the high ground.

    The best way to avoid computer viruses...is to not install software from developers and vendors that don't have a solid reputation.

    The best way to not be set on fire...is to avoid situations where you could likely be set on fire.

    I've never claimed revenge porn to be "fine." It's wrong and demonstrates severe weakness of both character and spine. However, bogging down the legal system with it is both stupid and wasteful.
     
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  7. Hexic

    Hexic TS Addict Posts: 283   +132

    You're correct - it IS your right to share whatever you'd like with individuals online. It's also your right to be responsible for your own actions if those photos get into the wrong hands. How about not sending scandalous photos of one's self over the airwaves, thus not creating the problem in the first place?

    Nah, that makes too much sense.

    The browsing history is a perfect analogy, because I'd have to willingly and trustingly send you my browsing history, which one could post online, and that's just what is happening here. If you hacked my system and posted my history, that's hacking. Which isn't the topic of the original post.
     
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  8. Mech918

    Mech918 TS Rookie

    Did I miss something here? Where did it say the source of the porn was? Your implying that if you divorce someone and they post images of you that were intimate with someone you trusted isn't a reason for outrage. Was it written or implied that the source was only images an individual sent themselves to someone on the internet.
    Character flaws are common place anymore. And acting in such a manor is unchecked. When you are in love and happy trust is absolute. That quickly turns when a relationship falls apart. The trusted pictures of years past quickly become the weapons of a wounded ego. Revenge in this form comes from a coward. Someone eager to hurt someone else from a safe distance. It can quickly destroy the image/character of the person in the photo, but not the image/character of the person distributing them. The only mistake the betrayed person made was trusting someone. So lets analyze your view. To solve this problem we can eliminate all elements of trust from our lives. Watch over our shoulders 24/7 even behind closed and locked doors.
    Your opinion totally ignores the possibility of photos or videos taken without the persons knowledge. Dose a spouse or loved one have the right to take such images for their own pleasure. Only to later use them as a weapon. Its then left to the victim to prove it was taken without their consent or knowledge. Its funny that the accused is presumed innocent, but often victims of this sort of crime often have to fight to prove they were innocent.
    Maybe it doesn't belong clogging the legal system. But there are no courts to punish slime that has no backbone, character, or sense of right or wrong. When you betray a trust for revenge, your just a coward and have no honor at all. Yet its the victim that gets slammed and shamed.
    Makes you wonder where its all going to stop. We tint our windows, hide behind voice mails and texts. People in general are less likely to act in such a shameless manor when the can be openly seen and called out on their actions. Think about it.
     
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  9. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,541   +2,337

    Quite a bit.

    I've implied no such thing. I mentioned marriage because of how property laws generally work in the United States. If you take compromising photos inside a marriage, you have legal protection (insofar as it concerns property) and a reasonable expectation for trust (due to divorce risk). No such things exist with a non-married couple, no matter how "in love" they feel at a given point in time.

    It is abundantly clear that we are discussing consensual photographs and/or videos. Secret recordings used for nefarious purposes and covert violations of privacy are indefensible.

    I don't believe in using the government to protect people from the folly of their lackluster decision-making skills. Knowing that the state of a relationship can switch from love to animosity upon termination, sending a significant other to whom you are not married compromising photos is demonstrably shortsighted and stupid.

    Revenge porn isn't the act of a coward. Revenge porn is the act of butthurt dweebs that lack a spine. If you don't want them burning people with fire, you don't supply them with the fire. It's a very simple concept. This does not imply forsaking trust. It means, in no uncertain terms, to stop making bad decisions.

    Inevitably, this means not getting to have your cake and eat it, which seems to be the real issue here.
     
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  10. Mech918

    Mech918 TS Rookie

    I get what your saying, but where in the article is it made clear the source of the porn. And the other details you claim are so clearly stated. Maybe you have knowledge of the topic that are not written here, but no where does it cover the source of the porn or the method of the sharing. If you think the actions of such bottom feeders are justified by blaming the person trusting them, then you are as much the problem as the shameless individual posting revenge porn. A betrayal of trust is just that, no matter the situation. Is it foolish to send compromising photos to someone you don't really know? Yes without question. If it was a photo or photos from a 15 year relationship, that's a different beast altogether. Saying it's OK for a person to act in such a manor because of a wounded ego is absurd. And saying you can't trust someone your in a committed relationship with is a,sad way to live. Again the source of the porn is what I'm missing from the article and your statements. Which person is the law geared to helping. The key world for me is revenge. Anyone seeking to hurt someone else physically or psychologically because their feelings were hurt, is wrong. And saying it's the victims fault because the shouldn't have trusted them, well that's wrong. If it's from a new relationship and impulsive then commonsense was missing on the part of the victim. If it was a long term committed relstionship, the person posting the images should answer for their actions. Maybe a lawyer should be involved in the intimate relations of couples and draw up the proper documents to prevent this type of betrayal. If you feel it's OK to for someone to seek this type of revenge or using these types of images to hold someone hostage, and blame the victims your opinion and as such isn't wrong. Unless you think of your own daughter falling victim tobduch action. Maybe tying up the legal system with such cases is wasteful. Maybe we should go back to the days of friends and family visiting the person posting such images. After all its all about revenge, right.
     
  11. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,541   +2,337

    No, you don't. If you did, you wouldn't have misrepresented my entire position, twice.

    I'll outline it one last time so there is no further confusion:

    1. Revenge porn is wrong.
    2. Revenge porn that utilizes legally obtained media is not a matter for the courts.
    3. The best way to prevent revenge porn is to not record compromising images for a non-spouse.
     
  12. Hexic

    Hexic TS Addict Posts: 283   +132

    Stop! You're making too much sense!
     

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