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Firefox Myths

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mastertech, Jan 22, 2006.

  1. Mastertech Banned

    LINKS REMOVED

    A Good Read. :)
  2. kodrutz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 145

    I must answer only one thing to the system requirements myth:
    http://metawire.org/~kodrutz/FireFoxHungry.jpg

    About the fast-faster thing...is that page sponsored by Micro$oft or what??I am not saying that they are not right, but where's the proof for those words?

    Apart from these, the rest they say there it's pretty true...I use also Opera, Maxthon and Avant, and I must agree that each one has its strengths and its weaknesses.
  3. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

    Here's what sources have to say for themselves (Emphasis mine - Nanobox is the source for the "Myth - Firefox fully supports W3C Standards");

    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2005/12/re-firefox-myths.php
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2006/01/more-illegal-activity-from-andrew-k.php
    http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41
    Several quotes are used on the page from various people. As with the misrepresentation of several sources, some people are also quoted incorrectly or out of context;

    Firefox Myths - "...Good stuff - give it a read." - Asa
    Original comment - "Robert Accettura has a nice response to the poorly constructed & mostly worthless article Firefox Myths. Good stuff - give it a read."

    Firefox Myths - "It's an interesting read..." - Robert A.
    Original comment - "Someone looking for their 5 minutes of fame (obviously not worth 15 minutes) decided to post some Firefox Myths. It’s an interesting read, though has a few oddball statements, that really don’t make sense.."

    Mastertech has also been banned on countless boards for using aliases & self-promotion. For a confirmed list of Aliases & IPs proving that see;
    http://nanobox.chipx86.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38

    Even on Evil Avatar he's been exposed;
    http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8269&page=14&pp=10

    I've mentioned some of this on the Blog over a month back in fact;
    http://www.techspot.com/staff/51/firefox-myths-debunked/
  4. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

    I've updated the previous post with several new items covering Mastertech's deceit.
  5. howard_hopkinso Newcomer, in training Posts: 25,949   +16

    What a cracking post TS l Thomas.

    Thanks for the info.

    Regards Howard :)
  6. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    with all the firefox hoopla, people forget Mozilla also has their great Mozilla suite browser and now the seamonkey project. Personally I don't care for firefox, I use mozilla suite.
     
  7. SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,382

    Hmmmmm?
    I'll have to take a closer look see....got it installed just fine but no
    clue how to migrate from FFox/T-bird.

    Tedster! How The Hades are you?
    Hope you're makin your way to the end of CIVIL services ok.
  8. Peddant Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,644

    Opera it is then.
  9. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

    I actually introduced my supervisor at work to Opera yesterday. Tabs were a revelation to her (Normally she'd have several IE windows open at once, along with numerous other processes, i.e. she's scrolling the taskbar a few minutes after loading up in the morning ;)). I'd have preferred to use Firefox myself as it's easier for me to work with (Search plugin creation & the like) than Opera but there's some wierd issue with 1 of the Intranet apps not functioning correctly when it comes to loading updated data into a pop-up window with Firefox. Opera (Version 9 anyway) works Ok for some reason. That said I've got the error logs so I hope they'll fix it shortly.

    Moot point in a way though as I've now left that department so I'm able to switch back once more.
  10. AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    Yea tedster how is the whole military thing going? (i really hope it was you that is in the military or i just sounded like a fool)

    :D :D
  11. Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    So apparently this Mastertech guy has been trolling every forum on the net with his stupid anti-firefox crap. lol

    Myth- posting a link to your dumb site in every forum you can will increase your traffic and get people clicking on your ads.
  12. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    just reported to 1st CAV division HQ at Fort Hood (ugh- hate Hood, love Fort Bliss)

    going to the sandbox in the fall....
  13. Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,047   +11

    I don't see what all the hoopla is over firefox, it is far inferior to Mozilla suite browser.... yeah, it may be a little smaller in size, but its functionality is quite limited when compared to Mozilla suite (now seamonkey).... actually seamonkey is another browser based on Mozilla suite.
  14. Mark Neilan Newcomer, in training Posts: 26

    I use firefox mostly because the other kids in computing make fun of me for using microsoft stuff like interenet explorer and outlook (not express - which is apparently fine because its free). Should I give in and stop being a corporate tool or should I continue to use ms software? I wont suggest, as a compromise, using ms stuff which isn't paid for (******, copied etc.) because i'll get banned like the other guy.

    Also firefox is good but sometimes you have to click twice and it crashed on the chocolate buttons website. I like the tabs.
  15. Peddant Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,644

    Opera it is then.
  16. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

    Myth - Firefox is more secure because it doesn't use Active X

    Reality - An ActiveX control can be an extremely insecure way to provide a feature. Because it is a Component Object Model (COM) object, it can do anything the user can do from that computer. It can read from & write to the registry, & it has access to the local file system. From the moment a user downloads an ActiveX control, the control may be vulnerable to attack because any Web application on the Internet can repurpose it, that is, use the control for its own ends whether sincere or malicious... Designing for security is important because an ActiveX control is particularly vulnerable to attack - Source Microsoft

    So much for that particular myth! Firefox, Opera & any other non-ActiveX supporting browser IS more secure by not supporting ActiveX.
  17. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

  18. agronick Newcomer, in training Posts: 120

    Active X controls are a good thing. IE prompts you before you start one so the only way you could get an virus though an active x control would be to allow it in yourself. A lot of good things on the web use active x. It is what windows update runs off of. I have seen it be used to detect what drivers a user would need to download and install them from right in the webpage.

    I like good free software. But Internet explorer is also free. I think the new version of Internet Explorer (still in beta) will bring a lot of people back from firefox. Firefox is a memory hog. It that guys picture it was using up 400mb.

    http://metawire.org/~kodrutz/FireFoxHungry.jpg
  19. AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,846

    400 mb? thats a load of crap

    I run multiple firefox browsers on my p3 laptop with 128MB of RAM.
  20. TS | Thomas Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,327

    ActiveX controls had good intentions no doubt but secure? No. I've posted up reasons why in Firefox Myths Debunked - short version;
    ActiveX controls can do anything & be called from *any* website once installed - Most recently Sony's DRM Rootkit uninstaller had an ActiveX exploit that could plant any file(s) on your PC - hidden.
    Washington Post - Buggy, Flawed ActiveX.
    Wikipedia - "The embedding of COM into the Internet Explorer web browser (under the name of ActiveX) created a combination of problems that has led to an explosion of computer virus, trojan and spyware infections. These malware attacks mostly depend on ActiveX for their activation and propagation to other computers. Microsoft recognized the problem with ActiveX as far back as 1996 when Charles Fitzgerald, program manager of Microsoft's Java team said "If you want security on the 'Net', unplug your computer. ... We never made the claim up front that ActiveX is intrinsically secure." [3] ActiveX as it is currently implemented is intrinsically insecure and is the biggest weakness of Internet Explorer not addressed by Windows XP Service Pack 2."
    SANS/FBI top 20 Vulnerabilities - "Most of the flaws in IE are exploited through Active Scripting or ActiveX Controls...."

    Internet Explorer isn't exactly "free" - It's tied to Windows & there are Windows requirements to run IE, e.g. IE 7 will not run on Windows 2000 or earlier - only XP+. Enhanced IE 6 security is not available unless you have XP Service Pack 2 & so on.