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GeForce2 MX 400 64mb - game lag problem

By Counter-strike
Feb 14, 2002
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  1. I bought a geforce2 mx400 64 mb and it's been giving me problems since. During the games i experience lag when i see a lot of action on the screen. Like if there is a lot of gunfire or if there is a lot of people.
    It's not a ping lag but more of a chopppines on the screen! i turned v sync off and buffer to block transfer on the display properties. Does any1 have any clue what to do? do i need more ram i only have 127?
    Im also running on open gl with a 640X400 or something resolution?
    I'm playing counter-strike if u guys didnt catch that part :)
  2. DaveSylvia

    DaveSylvia Newcomer, in training Posts: 127

    Please post the rest of your specs.
  3. Arris

    Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,537   +92

  4. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    my info

    i have 127 mb of ram, unsure on motherboard, pentium 3 650 mz processor, windows 98 2nd addition operating system, 17 inch kds monitor, speedstream dsl, geforcemx 400 vid card. is that enough info? plz help me!:rolleyes:
  5. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    o yea and

    o yea and a 10 gb hard drive. Weak i know... my comp is a gateway and it's not so great!
  6. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    You wouldn't have AA turned on by any chance. Some drivers just put it to 2x ( OpenGL or D3D ) by default.
  7. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    aa?

    what in the heck is aa? plz help!
  8. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    First off, the drivers that COME with the video card SUCK. Do not use them. Download the newest drivers from nVidia, as they often offer much greater performance and stability from manufacturer drivers. If you have not done this, I will almost guarantee this is the problem.

    AA is Anti-Aliasing. It is a process where your video card smooths the picture out a bit, although certain things may become a bit more blurry. It also does this as a great expense of video processing power, slowing your video card down as much as 30%. Make sure this is off.

    You have 127mb of RAM.. Which means you have an onboard video chip. Have you disabled this? Are sure you are even using your GF2 MX? If you have not disabled this video chip in the BIOS and connected your monitor cable to the new card, it is possible that you are still using your crummy integrated graphics chip instead.
  9. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    Also, what games are chopping up? What resolutions are you using?
  10. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    dang

    im using 600x400 res on open gl in cs games. which shouldnt be causing lag, also i installed new drivers from internet, 3rd i dont know how to disable other vid card and that could be the problem. please write back tellin me how to. thx very much.
  11. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,199

    Unsure about the sysbo? It's not in your documentation? I've never liked Gateway...Does your GF2 have 16mb or 32mb of onboard video memory? And really, when WAS the last time you upgraded your drivers? Since you got the computer? They're about 2½ years old if you did that, which is very bad...Check out Nvidia's site for upgrades.
    I think AA is definitely your problem. It's always been for older video cards, not for the Quincunx powered GF3-4's.
    Ever considered upgrading your hardware?
    What about switching to D3D, how's the choppiness there?
     
  12. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    yes i did

    i upgraded the drivers yesterday off nvidia.com and i checked running in 3d and it's even more laggy and i turned aa on and off and it didnt do a ****** thing...so that aint it! plz help. i think it may just be old fashion ram?

    peace



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  13. young&wild

    young&wild TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,268

    Have you uninstalled your onboard video chip drivers?
  14. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,199

    A GF2 shouldn't be that bad...Do you know what kind of RAM it does use? Likely SGRAM...but if you don't know, it doesn't really matter...It must just be the chip. 64mb should not be acting like that. What kind of cooling do you have on it? It may just be overheating.
  15. Counter-strike

    Counter-strike Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    the bios

    i do not understand how to get to the bios and disable anything? also when i was in games i noticed i had high fps when there were only a few amounts of people around, but when i was around 3 to 4 people and they were firing i had about 30 fps. im pretty sure it isnt overheating but you never know, i honestly think that i need mroe ***** ram


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  16. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    Yours posts will be deleted

    Two strikes, Counter-Strike. Another direct violation of this board and your account here will be suspended.

    Please be careful of the language. While I don't find such things offensive, other people do so we like to keep things as clean as possible.
  17. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,304   +52 Staff Member

    I realize counterstike isn't the newest game around, but when you have several other people around firing, things tend to get choppy. Especially if you are the server. 650Mhz is good enough for play most games very well, but it doesn't give much of a margin for extra performance.
  18. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    It shouldn't be going that bad even though his CPU is at 650. It's far more then enough to run CS. I used to run it with a P3 450 & a TNT 2 M64. At 800*600 I had 70 / 60 fps most of the time. Sure it slowed down with Smoke bombs but who doesn't ? With a Gf2MX400 especially with 64 mb & a 650 p3 you should be getting much more. I mean at 640*480, the card is even being stressed yet.
  19. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,199

    What programs do you run in the background while playing games? It could be not even the video card, rather the CPU slowing down. I had the same problem with my Athlon XP a while ago, I had firewalls, heat monitoring tools, and other stuff all running in the background, and it slowed my machine down to a crawl. Try looking into that, the 128 MB of your RAM very well may be full...
  20. uncleel

    uncleel Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,145

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  21. young&wild

    young&wild TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,268

    Re: the bios

    I believe if you have install if you have installed the card in a proper sequence, then your onboard graphics will be automatically disabled one the GF2 card is detected.
  22. Ai Hate

    Ai Hate Newcomer, in training Posts: 321

    press del when the pc is POSTing (where you see the )memory test. a presume it should be the same for al BIOSes (from what i've seen), but if not, then check your mobo manual (easiest way).
  23. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    Brand computers sometimes are harder to get into the BIOS. For old COMPAQ you needed a special boot disc in order to get in. If DEL doesn't work, most PHOENIX BIOSes work with the F2 key.
  24. DogStar

    DogStar Newcomer, in training Posts: 142

    serious?

    Kind of takes the seriousness out of it.And if anyone should know...it's me.;)
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    Re: serious?

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