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Getting CTDs while playing games, BSODs while downloading/ browsing.

By crew_dawg16
Dec 1, 2005
  1. Will somebody please tell me what is going on here? I have a fairly newly built computer, yet another fresh install of windows, all drivers/BIOS up to date, etc.

    Yet, still I get CTDs and BSODs it seems when the system is under load. Sometimes, it is seemingly at random. It might crash as I'm typing this, for instance.

    I am attaching minidumps as I have followed the steps outlined already several times before. Maybe one of you guys can help me diagnose this problem.

    My system specs are:
    Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe MOBO
    AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton Core 400 FSB
    2x512 Corsair XMS matched pair running dual channel
    On board audio
    XFX GeForce 6600GT AGP 8X
    200 GB Western Digital SATA drive
    Antec 350W PSU with 21A on 12+rail
    PLENTY of cooling
     
  2. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 2,044

    Hi,

    The culprit is faulty memory (ie RAM or Video Memory). Do you get BSOD when you execute emule?

    You can run memtest to stress the ram. If memtest reports the ram is faulty, ram is bad. However Memtest is not a perfect tool to test the memory as some faulty ram can pass memtest.

    Suggestion
    1. Check the temperature of the CPU and make sure that it is not overheat (ie temperature < 60C)
    Make sure that the CPU fan works properly
    2. Reseat the memory stick to another memory slot. Reseat video card as well.
    3. Downclock the ram. Check to default setting if you video card is overclocked.
    4. Clean the dust inside the computer case
    5. Make sure that the ram is compatible to the motherboard
    6. Check the bios setting about memory timing and make sure that it is on
    For example : DIMM1 and DIMM2 do not have the same timing.
    DIMM1: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
    DIMM2: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
    DIMM3: Corsair CMX512-3200C2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
    7. Make sure that your PSU have adequate power to drive all the hardware including USB devices
    8. Run chkdsk /r at command prompt
    9. Run 3D Mark to stress test your video ram

    If it still crashes, diagnostic which memory stick is faulty
    Take out one memory stick. If windows does not crash, the removed memory stick is faulty.


    Debug report
    Mini120105-01.dmp BugCheck 1000008E, {c000001d, 862e4144, f6d55230, 0}
    Owning Process 8624e3c8 Image: MpfTray.exe
    Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!DC::vReleaseVis+39 )

    Mini120105-02.dmp BugCheck 4E, {8f, a480, 2c248, 0}
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MmZeroPageThread+11d )

    Mini120105-03.dmp BugCheck 7A, {c0386b44, c0000102, e1ad101c, 36d65900}
    Probably caused by : win32k.sys ( win32k!GreGetDIBColorTable+6f )

    Mini120105-04.dmp BugCheck 10000050, {c206c71c, 0, 804e70d5, 0}
    Faulty RAM
    Owning Process 85d58da0 Image: emule.exe
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiLocateAndReserveWsle+52 )
     
  3. crew_dawg16

    crew_dawg16 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Thanks, I have tried most of those suggestions already, but I will try to relax the latencies and see what happens.

    I do get BSOD when using emule. Not when I execute it, but when it is downloading for a little while.
     
  4. cpc2004

    cpc2004 TS Evangelist Posts: 2,044

    Hi,

    If you don't use emule, do you still get the blue screen?
     
  5. crew_dawg16

    crew_dawg16 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Yeah, it pretty much happens whenever it feels like it. Also, I get the explorer crashes, etc.. I tried relaxing the latencies a little, it made things worse. I tried running at 190MHz with 11.0X multiplier, that didn't work. Right now, I am just underclocking at 191MHz with 10.5X and it's fine. I guess the RAM isn't stable with this board at 200MHz, but it is too early to tell yet.

    I will get back on here this afternoon and post results.

    Thanks again
     
  6. crew_dawg16

    crew_dawg16 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 19

    OK so far, so good. About 8 straight hours of use without a BSOD or CTD. Good stuff. I have my RAM underclocked to 191 right now and I will try to slowly raise it until I find the limit. Either way, this RAM shouldn't be having problems, but oh well.

    It's almost time to build my next machine anyway.
     
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