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Graphic Problems??

By Waccky
Nov 6, 2006
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  1. Hello yall, im a new member =) but thought id best off post my first being a problem rather then introductory one so i apologise for that.

    ike the title says, im having some graphic problems on my PC... setting the scene;

    OS: XP Professional
    Proc: AMD Athlon XP 3200+ ~2.2GHz
    Memory: 2046MB RAM
    Harddrive 140GB
    Display: RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB

    Ive had the computer for ... approximately 2 years, temperature runs fine, but up until last year, i stopped gaming (WoW, America's Army, Eve) because it kept on crashing, so i thought maybe because of all the crap i have on the computer.
    But it wasnt until recently i rebooted and reinstalled Windows, so only installing the key components and updating them, i wanted to see if i still crash, and lo and behold, i still do.

    When it crashes, it goes to a black screen, yet i hear the computer fans still running, so it is on, but nothings showing up, sometimes goes to a blue screen but not recently as of yet, so because it just goes black, it doesnt give me a minidump either.

    It is quite stable when not operating any high graphically required programs, but whenever i start a game, or even SolidWorks, it works fine for a little awhile, then crashes, usually within 10mins.

    Device driver problem or power supply or whatever your imagination can conjure?

    My spec is suitable for the games and i have around 80GB of harddrive space, i did used to play for a long time without any complaints for quite a number of months, but then it started happening...

    :(

    Any ideas?
     
  2. smore9648

    smore9648 TS Rookie Posts: 757

    Are your drivers up to date for your graphics card?
    What version of DirectX are you running?
     
  3. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    Google and get memtest and run it for at least 8 passes to test your ram!!!!

    What make and wattage psu do you have????
     
  4. Waccky

    Waccky TS Rookie Topic Starter

    yeah ... ATI 6.10 ... direct x 9.0c or so? cant remember but they are the latest from the windows update site

    What make and wattage psu do you have????

    im not home currently, but it is 450W i think which is enough? Like i said earlier, the computer was running the game fine for around 6 months before it started happening, so would a device driver update make the power consumption beyond that of what im using?

    ill get a more detailed PSU information when im home

    Thanks =)
     
  5. N3051M

    N3051M TS Rookie Posts: 2,800

    a device driver is just a software update that makes the device in question somewhat more efficient and most importantly, work properly. It won't take more power out of the PSU unless the hardware is taking the power.

    Some PSU's get on with age, and some are just plain crap generic stuff, others are top notch, and its good to know what you have..

    memtest will check your ram for errors, but it could as easily be a video or power problem..

    one thing to add to your list of to-do's is just having a look at your motherboard and components and seeing if you can spot anything irregular like marks, stains, burns, capacitor damage etc.
     
  6. Waccky

    Waccky TS Rookie Topic Starter

    one question ... what exactly does the memtest show? i let it run for just 2 passes, yes it may not be enough, but just as a quick general look, although it was ran for just over 3 hours... i got values of:

    Test: 0 Errors 0
    Test: 1 Errors 0
    Test: 2 Errors 6176
    Test: 3 Errors 0
    Test: 4 Errors 18092
    Test: 5 Errors 1280
    Test: 6 Errors 0
    Test: 7 Errors 0
    Test: 8 Errors 3690
    Test: 9 Errors 0
     
  7. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    It means that your ram is faulty and in need of replacement!!!!!

    What ram have you got exactly????
     
  8. Waccky

    Waccky TS Rookie Topic Starter

    all i can find about it is 2047MB RAM
    Chipset: VIA KT400(A)/600
    if that helps? o.O
     
  9. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    You will have to open up your pc and pull the ram out and have a look at the labels on it all!!!!
     
  10. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    REMEMBER TO GROUND YOURSELF and make sure the computer is unplugged. The slightest static shock and your memory is gone.
     
  11. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,438


    Yeah it would hurt to get shocked by your computer pulling out parts when it's still on =P
     
     
  12. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    LOL. But it's very true. The slightest static will kill memory very easily. I know, I talk from experience :'(.
     
  13. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,438

    lol that sucks Rage =P
     
  14. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 4,985

    A shocking story Rage!!!!:)
     
  15. Waccky

    Waccky TS Rookie Topic Starter

    on the chips themselves...
    Matrix
    16M84X-9

    if that helps? no other sticker except "warranty void if removed" hehe
     
  16. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Yeah, I s'pose I 'ppreciate the pun ;). As for Waccky, it will take some time but remove each stick, and test each one individually i.e. alone in one slot, with memtest to find out which one is bad.
     
  17. Waccky

    Waccky TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hmm, my friend who built it says he might have te invoice for the ram ... and see if its lifetime warranty, if so ... goodie =)

    thanks for the help ...

    #1 spot

    :D
     
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