since i joined this site 1-2 yrs ago, I have been able to build ,yes build,3 decent desktops at a reasonable price. With a lot of forum reading and some good advise.I really want to thank everyone who contributes,staff,addicts,newbies,cause every question and answer helps someone out here.We just need the right button pushed to resolve any problem.thanks again techspot my third favorite bookmark. eightwpm.... pc#1= asus mobo wd 80gb hd celeron D 2.9 478 skt 128 mb nvidea graphics card 512 mb 2700 ram dvd/combo pc#2= biostar mobo/geforce 6100 amd athlon64 3200+ cpu 939 skt. 1gb 2700 ram dvd combo 120 gb seagate barracuda hd nvidea chipset awesome (kid loves W.O.W.) pc#3 biostar mobo celeron D 2.6ghz 512 3200 ram sony dvd 80 gb toshiba hd also a 478 skt. sky's the limit folks take care.