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HDD space just dissapeared

By cptanthrax@gmai
Feb 12, 2008
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  1. I've had this problem with my hard-drive for a long time. My harddrive capacity is 145GB but now I only have 2.71GB remaining. Ive checked how much space ive used up and its not that much:

    videos - 15.16GiB
    music - 11.81GiB
    apps - 288.39MiB
    p0rn - 6.37GB

    add up all of that, and my downloads folder it comes out to me using 34 GB of my harddrive.

    i think this has to do with me not formating my computer correctly, when i was reinstalling windows xp. maby i need the program, "Partition Magic". But im not sure.

    Someone please help me...

    ;(



    this is my hdd, it if helps

    Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller
     
  2. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Partition Magic costs money to buy.

    Gparted is free: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php

    You may also want to download CCleaner: http://www.ccleaner.com/

    And check your download folder more closely. Some sharing programs like B!ttorent (as an example) make the shared folder look like it has hundreds of gig in (ie shared files) when it really doesn't.

    If you have any of these sharing programs, I'd remove them.
     
  3. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,582

    go to my computer (right click )
    go to manage
    left click
    scroll to disk management what do you see
     
  4. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,426   +317

    right-click My Computer->Manage
    use File->options to get to Disk Cleanup

    run it, review and delete as you see appropriate :)
     
  5. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    thank you

    i already have a letgitamet copy of partition magic. i am at a library rite now. but i will try out your suggestions when i get home. i will get back to you as soon as i can...
     
  6. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Oh OK, you do have Partition Magic.

    Anyway, what does Partition Magic state as your drive usage size is?
    And is that different to what Windows states? (From Disk Management)
     
  7. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Update..!

    I snooped around closly and cleaned up some unwanted ****, like some DVD

    format movies (but i kept one thats 7.63GB). But thanks to CCleaner (and

    kimsland) i cleared up 4gigs. Now i have a freespace of 15.4gigs/ (out

    of) 145GB.

    I am trying to closely folow your directions.. (pictures included)
    Directions from:

    (To)
    kimsland - I used CCleaner to: Analyze and Run Cleaner. &. Scan and Fix

    all issues in Registry. This freed up like 4 extra GIGs!

    Samstoned - I uploaded some pix for you, so you can see. This is what my

    "disk management" looks like..

    jobeard - by saying run Disk Cleanup, you ment run Disk Defragment? cuz

    thats what I tried to do. But it says, "to run Disk Defragmenter

    effectively, you need atleast 15% usable freespace" (i have 10%). "There

    is no enough disk space to properly complete the operation. Delete some

    **** from your harddrive and try again". but i have an option to Defrag

    anyway. I chose to Defrag later...

    ------

    Maby it has something to do with me not being to access/(OR DELETE) the

    SIDDARTH folder,....take a look.

    no_access.jpg
    [​IMG]

    Now look at my...
    Device_Management.JPG
    [​IMG]

    heres the screenshot of partition magic if it helps:
    Partition_magic.jpg
    [​IMG]

    (if you are having trouble with these pictures, just email me, with your

    techspot name in the subject)

    Thank you..
     
  8. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Wow, very comprehensive, well done with the reply.

    Just in regards to the "SIDDARTH" folder
    What is it?
    How big is it?

    There are tools to remove locked folders
    ie Move On Boot
    Which will remove (delete) the folder

    Also, you do still have too much on the drive (less than 15% available)
    Have you thought of backing up some Programs / Data to DVD or even to an another harddrive ?

    A defragmented drive can slow your system access time, and also put more stress on a drive.

    Just in regards to the original question

    You can download FullDisk from HERE to find out which location on your drive all your Gigs are being used up
     
  9. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Update2

    thnx,

    as far as answering the question, "What is it?" im not really sure. when i scroll my curser over the folder it says its empty. When i drag the folder into the "Move On Boot" it says the folder is NOT empty. i clicked remove folder and it responded, "Access Denied" (same thing when i try to look in the folder". This folder mite be secretly taking up space because i probably didnt format my harddrive or reinstally my copy of windows correctly. But im not exactly sure that this is the fault.

    as far as backing up. I have a normal CD writer 48x (no dvd burner), and only one HDD. But i dont care if defragmentation takes a long time, i will probably leave it going over-night...Are you trying to tell me that my system will be SLOWER after defraging?

    I have used FullDisk. (Thank you for recomending it, its useful). And it shows that the Norton folder in my Program Files takes up a lot of space. When i click into the folder, and open the folder (the only one) Quarentine, my comp crashes(but its nothing crtl+alt+del cant fix).... I suspect a virus/trojen. (i need some anti-virus/anti-spyware tools, i have none :( .I will use Move on Boot for this.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Am I correct in seeing that NIS is 40 Gig !
    No wonder no one likes Norton

    I would recommend removing it [​IMG] Because, when removing NIS, it will also ask, "Do you want to remove the files in quaratine" (dumb question anyway) Yes

    You may want to save your licence info, before removing it.

    But do it anyway.

    After that reply back.

    By the way, you can either re-install NIS fresh [​IMG] Or download AVG Free :grinthumb

    Your choice !
     
  11. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,372   +167

    • I just came across and bookmarked this Microsoft KB a couple weeks ago. Sounds like you should look through it to assure this isn't part of your problem. How to locate and correct disk space problems on NTFS volumes in Windows XP
    • Was going to tell you about a handy java based tool JDiskReport but looks like FullDisk provides similar function
    • You might also find ExplorerXP handy when you explore files/folders as it gives you folder sizes (which you don't get using Microsoft Explorer). Click on the Size column header to order by size. It provides a number of other handy features as well.

    /* Edit */
    And i second kimsland on that 40GB for Norton. Wow
    And is that SIDDARTH folder kosher? Just that the MS KB mentions spyware infections so wonder.....
     
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    As usual Thank-you LookinAround
    The fulldisk program is licenced software (ie Trial before buy) so your links do help

    Also did you check out the pic for NIS, unbelievable !

    Also check out my post here: http://www.techspot.com/vb/post576012-2.html
    Totally unrelated to this post.
    But had to say thank-you in helping me learn formatting looks nice :)
     
  13. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,372   +167

    cptanthrax@gmai: Sorry we're stealing some bandwidth from your thread but...

    Kimsland
    • Our posts crossed at just about the same time! had just commented on that 40GB. I agree. Wow
    • Nice job on the formatting! :grinthumb The post is nicely structured and visually easy to read.

    /* Edit */
    And, of course, you're welcome
     
  14. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    update3

    thnx lookinaround

    the only folder in the c:\program files\norton was the folder "Quarentine" i tried to delete it and it looked like my computer crashed, then back to normal...and nothing happened (it didnt delete) literally 10 minutes later a window pops up saying "CONFIRM PERMINANT DELETE?" im like f**k yea! now i have 57gb (freespace) out of 145gb.

    [​IMG]

    Umm... i THINK my problem is solved...i just need to clearup some random files lurking around in my program files...what do you guys think?

    one quick question. Will it make my computer slower after I defrag??

    p.s. lookaround
    /Siddarth is not a kosher food, its my REAL first name. L0L
     
  15. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    No it will probably make it way faster, and it may save your Hard Drive life's expectancy.

    Siddarth still requires assistance though.
     
  16. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hmm

    When i look in "My Computer" it says Total Size: 145gb Free Space: 57.3gb. But according to FullDisk, i am using up 83gb (FullDisk indicates that, "C: has 61,744M bytes free (39%))

    Sooo, subtract 62 from 145 and you get.....83gigs (i dont think im using 83 out of 145gigs on my C drive)

    ...i just confuzed myself

    Correct me if I am wrong, because i suck at math...

    [​IMG]




    BTW which is better AVG or avast! (my friend recomends avast!)
     
  17. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Well AVG but I don't think it matters too much. Avast is just as good (we're talking freeware by the way)

    Now the graph.

    You know lets just get rid of the "Siddarth" folder and go from there.

    Is there anything in Add/Remove programs about "Siddarth" ?
    Does Move On Boot, work in Safe mode ?
    Can you boot from your Windows CD, go to a command prompt, and remove it.

    Gotta get rid of this thing somehow!

    Then we'll work out why Fulldisk sees a different size, probably looks at the size of the Hard Drive partition, where Windows looks at the File System size (the cluster size involved here)
     
  18. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Sorry for double post

    Just noticed you had uTorrent on the desktop (from Pic)

    If this is free, can you go to Add/Remove programs, and fully uninstall it

    Then check that folder again
     
  19. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,426   +317

    Disk Cleanup Utility is not defrag.

    Click Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Disk Cleanup
     
  20. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    update4

    its not utorrent thats secretly taking up space, i kno where the temp/downloads folder is for utorrent. i will try to delete the siddarth folder with move on boot (safe mode) and get back to you.

    i will try out the disk clean up thing too..

    thnx
     
  21. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    nice

    wow the disk cleanup freed up like 2.5 gigs. and i tried out the move on boot in safe mode. i still cant delete the "suposedly" empty "Siddarth" folder.
     
  22. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    You could try to boot up with your Windows CD to a command prompt
    (you need to know the directory where Siddarth exists - pretty sure c:\siddarth)

    Then once logging into Administrator by going
    1
    then
    Enter after that

    then type DEL C:\Siddarth
    Enter

    Hopefully it removes
    If so
    Type exit

    And restart your computer to confirm it's gone.
     
  23. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,372   +167

    If you're trying to get your numbers to add up, note that most MS tools (like Explorer) won't include statistics on file/folders you don't have access to (e.g. SIDDARTH). So you will see a size of 0 REGARDLESS of how big it really is unless you have access rights.

    I'll refer you back to my post (#11 in the thread). Follow the instructions in the MS KB on File Attributes or NTFS Permissions. When you're done, if you find any folders without a Security tab, report them back here.
     
  24. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,372   +167

    I'm doing this 2nd post just to make sure you're notified/see it... but thought to elaborate a bit.

    Using Windows Explorer look at the C:\System Volume Information which contains your System Restore points. Properties will report a size 0! Download and use ExplorerXP (also in previous post) and you'll see the real size.

    Also note you can have two different column displays, both Size and Size on Disk. Size is actual file size. Size on Disk is the amount of space used to actually save the file on disk
     
  25. cptanthrax@gmai

    cptanthrax@gmai TS Rookie Topic Starter

    update5

    I have followed the directions on the microsoft support page. here is a screenshot

    [​IMG]
     
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