I've always had AMD CPUs and often with nvidia GPUs, never had any incompatibility problems. And the 5V line actually has 5.10V, it's probably a software issue since I got good readings directly from the BIOS screen, it didn't display 5V though, and that's probably why even gigabyte's software didn't give a good reading for 5V. You'll only have "incompatibility issues" if you want to use 2 GPUs together, aka "SLI" for nVidia and "Crossfire" for AMD/ATI.
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Cycloid Torus
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You surely have that right ("don't call me Shirley"). What really puzzles me most is how a 4 year old motherboard can still be mis-identified and sensors mis-interpreted in the various software we have used to determine temperatures and voltages. We have the proof from the direct hardware measurements that HWMonitor, OCCT and the manufacturer's SIV utility get it wrong?!? I really wish we have a reliable monitoring tool or understood why the measurements are 'all over the place'.So it's really narrowing down now. You might have an issue with the PSU or the graphics card but then again it might be a software issue. Fortunately we are not charging for this diagnosis.
@gabars : Barring the occasional uber-game crash, how is the system doing? If this has been sitting for a couple of years, have you considered pulling apart and reengaging all the connections to make sure of good contact? Can you inspect boards closely for bulging capacitors and bits of debris (something the dusters would not move)? Can you get some feedback from Gigabyte about the bad measurement of the +5v in their utility?
Reviews at NewEgg might give insight... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128553
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Why do you think it's the PSU or the graphics card? All the voltages are within specs despite what HWMonitor and SIV show. I think there might just be no sensor for the 5v on my motherboard, since it's not available in the BIOS, I've had similar problems with a laptop, it didn't have a system temp sensor (or maybe it didn't work from day 1) so it always showed something like 40C. And I don't see why it would be the graphics card at all...
And otherwise the system is going well. I didn't have any freeze or bsod since I moved the game folder to my other hard drive. I think I forgot to say I had trouble when I installed linux mint after 2 years of storage, it kept freezing during the install. It ended up working on the 3rd or 4th try. I couldn't find my anti-static wristband when I cleaned it so I kept the touching to a minimum, but I did inspect the motherboard for bulged/blown capacitors and everything seems fine. I might try unplugging all the connections this weekend.
I sent a support ticket to gigabyte yesterday, I'll post their answer when/if I get one.
Cycloid thought the PSU, the owl reckoned the graphics card and you reckoned it might be software related. I have no real clue but Cycloid's analysis impressed me. In the last post you now believe it is a sensor on the mobo. I look forward to the response from Gigabyte.
I got a reply from gigabyte, they completely dodged the question... This is their answer:
This is my new question
Hopefully he's talking about HWMonitor, which I barely mentioned in my question.
This is my new question
If he manages to dodge this one, I'll try closing and opening every window in my house and see if my computer is fixed...
Cycloid Torus
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Puzzled. I thought you had located a Gigabyte utility which reported 5v as 4.1v or such. Am I wrong?
Vtuner?
Vtuner?
Cycloid Torus
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I guess you might expect Gigabyte to explain the odd +5v report in the software utility that they provided, yes?
Cycloid Torus
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Not when we are asking about +5v which is an entirely different breed of cat. Yes, we no longer need to worry about -5v as it is not used in modern systems. +5v is different. Maybe it too will go away in a couple of years, but it was still used on your 4 year old motherboard.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/187006-28-what-rail (but disregard 'bmouring' comment)
My guess at this point is that the value of the +5v is as determined by multimeter as is +12v, but the 4 year old motherboard is screwing up somehow (see tomshardware discussion for possible issues you might 'fix'). Still in the end, what do we have here? HDD - some bad sectors. Temps are good. Some BSOD, but no clear error. Voltages when measured are 'ok', but when the manufacturer's utility is run and reads the sensors, the voltages are way off. Add to this the reviews at NewEgg and I get the feeling that a new cheapo motherboard with an 80% good rating (>80% 4 or 5 star) might be better than the one you now have. Check compatibility list for your cpu and ram before buying.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/187006-28-what-rail (but disregard 'bmouring' comment)
My guess at this point is that the value of the +5v is as determined by multimeter as is +12v, but the 4 year old motherboard is screwing up somehow (see tomshardware discussion for possible issues you might 'fix'). Still in the end, what do we have here? HDD - some bad sectors. Temps are good. Some BSOD, but no clear error. Voltages when measured are 'ok', but when the manufacturer's utility is run and reads the sensors, the voltages are way off. Add to this the reviews at NewEgg and I get the feeling that a new cheapo motherboard with an 80% good rating (>80% 4 or 5 star) might be better than the one you now have. Check compatibility list for your cpu and ram before buying.
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