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Home network, looking for server to share files between computers.

Discussion in 'Storage and Networking' started by wyrmwraith, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. wyrmwraith Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    I'm thinking something similar to ftp, have no idea what options there are.

    Have 3 computers want to network between both in a more convenient manner than msn.

    Hopefully can get some recomendations to minimise trauling time. Both computers are running windows XP and are connected through a multi-port router.


    Thanks for any input.
  2. gavinseabrook Newcomer, in training Posts: 528

    You should be able to do this simply WITHOUT a server. All you have to do to share files, is use windows file sharing. Let me paint a picture for you...say you have your 3 computers. One is named Suzy, one is Steve, and one is Bill. Once file sharing is enabled (which you can do just by sharing a file), you should be able to do something similar to this. Say your on the computer Bill, and you want to grab some files from the shared folder on Suzy. Open up my computer, and in the address bar (Where is says your location) type in \\Suzy. This will give you access to the files and printers on that computer. BTW if you dont know how to rename a computer, right click on the my computer icon and select properties. Once the system tool comes up, click on computer name and change if necessary. Good luck and I hope this helps make things cheaper than buying a crappy old server lol.
  3. Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    You can also access all files on all the computers using the \\computer\driveletter$ notation. A la \\Suzy\c$ will give you the contents of Suzy's C: drive.

    These administrative shares are accessible only to users with administrative rights.
  4. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,228   +122

    for security and system integrity reasons, you should share only files within
    \Documents and Settings.

    in this manner, you protect your c:\ and c:\windows from overlays.

    the C$\ share is intended for systems connected to a Domain Controller where
    an admin can perform remote maintenance for the department IT group.
  5. gavinseabrook Newcomer, in training Posts: 528

    Especially if you are running a station on a wireless network. You dont want people to view/modify you stuff :p. Unless your router is encrypted....well...wep cracking is pretty easy lol
  6. mikescorpio81 Newcomer, in training Posts: 574

    My understanding was that wep keys haven't as yet been cracked ... if you have cracked one or have software that does so, please share!

    I have clients who can't remember their WEP keys hassling me all the time!
     
  7. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,228   +122

    1) WEP is easilty cracked, but NO we will not show you how
    2) client issues re WEP keys can easily reset the key to a known, new value.
    They should migrate to WPA/2 keys which are much-much harder to crack.

    AND, btw, once properly configured, there's nothing to remember anyway.
  8. mikescorpio81 Newcomer, in training Posts: 574

    WPA IKE is extremely secure, but with some clients of mine after configuration and troubleshooting to get the re-connected I tend to sometimes remove their connection listed and re-add it. Some can't remember and I then have to go through the extra trouble of re-setting through their router, which in turn some do not know their router passwords!

    I always get through it though none the less ... it is intriguing to say the least on how to crack a WEP key, but of course I respect the fact that we can't discuss it here! :grinthumb
  9. wyrmwraith Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    It would seem the problem i have here is i'm good at disabling all manner of services related to file sharing, when it comes to turning them back on i'm lost.

    I've gone through services.msc enabling what I think to be relevant processes, seems i'm missing some crutial ingredient. I'm thinking i'll grab the laptop and make a comparison. Thanks for the above advice.

    note: i'm wondering whether via 3rd party software it may be possible to bypass the dependencies in services.msc which are enabled by default.
  10. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,228   +122

    File sharing documentation

    Clarification from MS

    Simple File Sharing

    How To Configure FS kb30404

    Synopsis:
    • All computers mus be on the same subnet
    • must have the same workgroup name (cp->system->Computer Name tab)
    • File Sharing must be enabled on the Lan NIC card
    • Firewall must allow ports 138-139,445 for the local lan ip addresses only
    • the Guest account password will control the ability to Map network Drive
      (hint: it can still be disabled for login and be used for Simple File Sharing)
  11. wyrmwraith Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    Good afternoon.

    I know how to configure filesharing and have it working between 2 pc's. The PC i specifically need it on will setup and configure fine (filesharing) but it wont acknowledge the network. I'm assuming this is to do with alterations i made in services.msc .. I can't find a relevant list of required services anywhere.
  12. gavinseabrook Newcomer, in training Posts: 528

    What do you mean "Wont acknowledge the network"?
  13. wyrmwraith Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    If i go to windows explorer for instance, network connections is listed. Normally you can browse and select the shared folder of the other pc's on the network which are enabled. This particular pc i can see network connections but it's not detecting any other pc's on the netwok.
  14. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Check your Local Security Policies for this PC you're having trouble with, it might be set guest mode and should be put into Classic mode for Networking.. Also make sure under Services.msc make sure you have Network Connections Started and Computer Browsing also Started and are both set to Automatic.
  15. jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,228   +122

    all pcs must be able to ping each other; from sysA ping sysB and conversely.

    an attempt to Map Network Drive will show if your firewall is allowing the
    correct ports to flow (ie no names== no ports)

    I show:

    Application Layer Gateway
    Windows Firewall/ICS
    depends upon:
    Network Connections,
    Windows Mgmt Instrumentation, and
    Remote Procedure Call
  16. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Could run this tool to see if it see all the pcs systems on your network....
    Single or multi - IP range can scan your entire domain or workgroup

    [IMG]

    http://lantricks.com/lanspy/

    freeware tool, I've use it at work to spot problems and to see if systems go SP2 as they were suppose too..
  17. wyrmwraith Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    Got to say this has me stumped. I can ping the computer with that handy tool, all services are enabled yet i still can't accessing filesharing of the laptop. Doesn't make sense when the other two computers can communicate fine.
  18. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    How to you sign on to the laptop with the same user ID and password? There is something on the laptop that is not set correctly.
  19. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Are you using the Windows XP Pro SP2 firewall on this laptop?
  20. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Try to force this policy on the laptop:

    click on start
    click on run
    type: gpedit.msc
    Under user configuration
    click on Adminstrative template
    then click on shared folders
    setup a policy for allow shared folders to be published to enable.

    also you can enable some more polices under
    Network then Network Connections in the same GP.

    go back to run and type: secpol.msc
    click on local policies
    click on sercurity options
    Make sure that Guess Account is disable
    Also change the Guest Account to another name
    Scroll down the list and make sure Network access Sharing is set to classic
    Scroll some more and change Network Security Lan Manager autthentication level to Send NTLM responses

    Do this for all your PCs on your network at home..