I Need A New Graphics Card!

By TheGiggle
Jul 28, 2007
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  1. Hello everyone. I have decided that it is time to upgrade my pc. I am very sick of not being able to play good games with my current graphics card. Here are my specs:
    Windows XP Home Edition SP2
    Motherboard:
    Gateway D865GLC Motherboard
    Processor:
    Intel Pentium 4 2.6 ghz
    Memory:
    512 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM
    Videocard:
    Intel 82865G Graphics Controller(96MB)
    (3 PCI slots and 1 AGP)
    Soundcard:
    Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller [A-2/A-3]
    Power Supply:
    AC Input 115/230 V ~,10/5A 60/50 Hz
    DC Output:250 W
    Hard Drive:
    80GB

    I am willing to spend around $200 on a new graphics card. I am also planning on buying 1gb of RAM. With a new card, i would like to play games like Counter-Strike:Source, Half-Life 2, Call of Duty 2, and Guild Wars on at least medium settings. And i live in the USA.

    Thanks for the help in advance! If anything else is needed to suggest a card, please let me know!
  2. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,909

    For $200, you might be able to get an X1950PRO AGP, which would allow you to play all those games on max settings as long as you also got that 1GB RAM. Or you could go lower and save a bit of money by getting the significantly worse 7600GT, although a 7600GT would still allow you to play all those games on nearly max settings.
  3. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

  4. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    This is a better choice since it comes with a better cooler and is cheaper than the GeCube version as well. Also, I think it should fit in your case properly.
    As for your PSU, your current one will definitely not be enough. I'd recommend this one since it has 22A on each +12V rail and will be enough for the card and any future upgrades as well.
  5. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Time to retire that comp soon... AGP cards are really overpriced, and getting something as powerful as the 1950Pro running on a 2.6Ghz P4 and 512mb of RAM... you'd have problems figuring out where the bottleneck is.

    The consolation is that you'd know that your graphics card isn't the culprit for sure.

    If those are the games you're going to play for awhile, maybe you might want to look for something a little lower end, save you the money, since it'll perform pretty equally given the bottlenecks in the computer.
  6. kpo6969

    kpo6969 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 875

  7. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,265   +41

    My opinion is to try to build something a little more new, you could get a mobo cpu and ram pretty dang on cheap right now, and you could use the hd you already have. Would probably perform twice as well as the current set up.
  8. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    So I would have to upgrade my power supply for all the cards listed? Is there a card that I could use without upgrading the power supply and still play the games on at least medium settings? Thanks for the help so far :D
  9. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    There's no card that'll give you that much headroom. Even an old card like the 6200 requires a 300W minimum PSU. The best you could get is probably a GeForce FX series card.
  10. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

  11. Nohrum137

    Nohrum137 Newcomer, in training

    Prices on all graphics cards have dropped. I have seen 8800 GTS go for around $270 and 8600's go for about $220. But you would want something that can run at least CS:Source at full which would be a 7600.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143069
    I would go with this than a 5500. True it would be an upgrade but when you upgrade you would want to do some good not a baby step forward.
     
  12. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    The problem with that is i would have to upgrade my power supply, right? I didnt really want to do that. :/

    Edit for looking at power supplies:
    I looked at the one Rage_3K_Moiz suggested, at this point I want to go the cheapest way while still being able the play the games a listed at max settings. So buying
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194003 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143069 is what I am leaning towards. Is there any requirements for changing power supplies? Like something on the motherboard, I dont really know much about it. Is it hard to change power supplies? Thank you to everyone so far :D
  13. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    Hello and welcome to TechSpot :wave: !

    For changing power supplies, typically that entails rewiring your computer (although it's not as hard as it may seem ;) ). May I suggest jumping to the GeForce 7800GS? It's around the same price and still packs a punch :) . Good luck :D !
  14. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

  15. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Everything looks fine. They should work, but I'm just wondering about the price of that Enermax...

    Didn't expect 500W PSU to cost 100 bux....
  16. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,265   +41

    Well I'm afraid of psu's that cost less than 100 bux, aren't you? I mean, we arent running celerons and integrated graphics here.
  17. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    It costs that much because it has two +12V rails with 22A on each, which I haven't seen on any similarly priced models. Add in the fact that Enermax is an excellent PSU manufacturer and you've got your answer. :)
  18. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Well, I didn't buy a PSU that cost less than $100 I tell you that, but its just scary that a 500W PSU reached 3 digits.

    I did realise that you could've saved 10bux on some other equally reliable PSUs, but they don't look as fancy.

    also, you mentioned 2x22A 12V outputs. That doesn't add up, if they both supply 22A, that alone would equal 528W. On a 500W PSU, that shouldn't be possible.
  19. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    Why not? 528W would be the maximum wattage, while it probably provides a steady 500W under normal conditions. It's SLI certified after all.
  20. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    uhm... if you added all the Watts produced by every single connector, it'll easily go above 700W.

    SLI certified 500W PSU? Probably certified to run GeForce 6200LE on SLI.... :D
  21. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    It actually pumps out only a combined total of 32A on the +12V rails. See here for details. That translates to 384W on both +12V rails combined and the rest of the power i.e. about 116W is distributed across the other rails. And this review (and the first one on the Newegg page under the Overview tab) sees it powering two 7800GTs in SLI with no problems at all. But the +12V amps info really makes you wonder whether the rails are truly separate or not...
    As for SLI, PC Power and Cooling sell a Turbo-Cool 510W SLI PSU that is on par with this Enermax model, if not better.
  22. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    You guys are making me nervous lol, because I dont understand anything you are saying :/. I should still get this power supply, right?
  23. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,281   +24

    Yes, I think you should. It's a good quality product and will last for a long time down the road.
  24. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Aww, don't worry about what we're talking about. We're just being very picky.

    If you're not looking at doing major upgrades down the road, this PSU should suffice.

    If you're saving up for an 8800gtx and quad core, I'd suggest a bigger power supply.
  25. TheGiggle

    TheGiggle Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    lolol, I am not planning on this at all. I actually have to wait for a check to clear before I order this stuff, ill let you all know how it goes once I get it. Thanks again for all the help. :D
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