Install XIMIAN GNOME!

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Phantasm66

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Okay, in this post I am going to tell you how to install Ximian GNOME for linux.

http://www.ximian.com/

In my example I used Red Hat Linux 7.2 but everything should be fine for lots of other *IX operating systems. In fact, Ximian GNOME runs on the following:

Debian Linux.
Mandrake Linux.
Solaris 8 for SPARCS (don't know about Intel...)
SUSE Linux
Yellow Dog Linux....
And of course Red Hat Linux.

....and I am sure that it installed on FreeBSD as well, but don't quote me on that. I've seen it on the web site, but when I have just checked here it was gone.

Now, in order to do this, you will need three things I should imagine:

1)A working OS installed from the list above.
2)A nice fast Internet Connection. You 56Kr's can try it, but I think you are pushing it a bit
3)Lets say (being generous) 500 MB free disk space on your linux partition.

With all of these three things in place, and connected to the net, open and terminal window and type this:

su -

(This will let you become root. the " - " bit makes it carry root's environment - such as PATH - as well, its good practice.)

Now, if you have to go through a proxy server where you are (such as work) then you will have to tell the command prompt about that as well, so export is as an environment variable like this:

export http_proxy="http://myproxy.mydomain.com:8080/"

where myproxy.mydomain.com is your http proxy server, and 8080 is the port. you can get all of this info from your browser's network connection settings if its needed.

you enter this command:

lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh

This will use Lynx to download the install script and then pipe it into sh for execution.

Isn't this stuff cool??

This will then lead you to a series of simple questions, the most important of which is which mirror site to download the installer software from. Pick one that looks near to you.

When the installer software has finished downloading it will execute. Again, this is just a series of simple questions. Tell it about an http proxy if needed, and also what mirror site and how much of XIMIAN GNOME you want to install. I would just take the whole thing.

If you do take the whole thing, I think it was about a 250 MB download or so. So go and watch the TV or something, unless you manage to hit it lucky and get a great connection.

When it has finished downloading and installing it will tell you. Restart your X session, or just reboot if you are not sure how to do that.

A Doorman will ask for your username, e-mail, etc, when you start up. Again its easy.

What can you do now??

Well, XIMIAN is a lot cooler an interface in my opinion to a lot of those bundled with some Linux versions.

But one of its strength is a program called Red Carpet (go to top pull down menu and click SYSTEM, choose "GET SOFTWARE").

Red Carpet is a bit like a cross between Add Remove programs and http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com but for Linux. You can add and remove programs as well as download and install new ones. Subscribe to all of the channels, and see what's there! Plenty of games, software, all kinds of stuff....

It will keep you up to date with XIMIAN stuff but also Red Hat updates, and so forth, as well.

Have a good look and have fun! Its a great GUI in my opinion...
 
The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am - Darth Vader.

Here's a screenshot for ya'll!

ximian.jpg
 
Umm...What exactly does it do? Just a new interface away from the TRASH:mad: icon driven interface Linux has resorted to?
 
At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!

Well, out of all of the interfaces what I have looked at for Linux, this seems to be one of the best, if not the best.

I realise that linux is moving away from the command prompt on many levels, but the command prompt is still central to a lot of things. Of course in linux we can do things on the command prompt we can't do in Windows (without some crazy 3rd party tool or something) but sometimes its just a pain having no good GUI. And, of course, sometimes its a pain having a weak commmand prompt (i.e. DOS, etc...)

Ximian GNOME reminds me a lot of some of the macintosh interfaces that I have seem. Strong, clear, concise. Its those sort of qualities that might help move some more of the Windows heads over to the Linux side.

I think that a lot of people fear Linux because they see all this UNIX stuff getting typed in, piped, grepped, emacsed, etc and don't realise what is going on, even for simple tasks.

Also, I like Ximian's approach to the software channels, where its easy to download new stuff and to get fixes, and also to resolve dependancies by calling in .rpms and so forth from other servers. We have all had the RPM nightmare.

All in all, I like it a lot better than KDE. There are strong arguments for KDE as well, but I think that Ximian GNOME wins in my humble opinion.
 
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Nah, I'm too old-fashioned for that. I had RH7.2 for about 24H but that Nautilus :dead: made me switch back to RH7.1. It seems like almost every OS is trying to make some kind of a hybrid-www-wizard-the-easiest-and-more-colors thing from where you're supposed to do everything. :dead:
 
Linux Integration, Part 3: Ximian Integrates and Innovates
By Robert Williams

In the past two newsletters we have examined the maturing of Linux from
the perspective of large enterprise supplier Computer Associates and
Linux/UNIX operating system publisher Caldera International. This week,
we examine how Ximian is focused on bringing Linux to the masses
through innovative integration of desktop applications.

Before looking at two of Ximian's premier products, it is also
noteworthy to mention that this company is in the clear leadership
position in migrating the Microsoft .NET framework to Linux. We will
examine this project in about a month when we do a series on the impact
of .NET as a possible interoperability tool. At that time I will share
the views of Ximian Vice President of Marketing, Jon Perr.

Now back to noteworthy Ximian interoperability oriented products. Yes,
the company does boost one of the most user-friendly Linux
distributions called Ximian Desktop. And while it is clearly a worthy
product by itself, I want to focus today on Ximian Evolution to
illustrate how the company seeks to win more Linux desktops with
applications that easily integrate into the dominate Microsoft Windows
environment.

Ximian Evolution can be described as the Linux answer to Microsoft's
Outlook. When you first look at the product, it has that similar look
and feel. The basic functionality of Outlook is all there. However,
this is where the similarities end. Ximian has advanced client
functionality in a great number of key features. I recommend that
anyone looking to deploy a Linux desktop review the Ximian Evolution
product description at http://itw.itworld.com/GoNow/a14724a53014a80107751a5

However, as an IT manager, you might find the important news revolving
around the Ximian companion product called Connector. This innovative
connectivity tool is designed to fully integrate with Microsoft
Exchange Server. Through this bridge, Ximian has made it possible to
transparently move mail, including attachments, between Linux and
Windows environments. This product has cleverly and effectively
resolved the issues of interoperability. From a user's perspective, the
mixed environmental issues are made transparent. From an administrative
view, you are provided management tools that cross operating system
barriers. This product deserves a close examination
(http://itw.itworld.com/GoNow/a14724a53014a80107751a8

source: http://www.itworld.com/newsletters
 
Red Carpet is like a cross between add/remove programs and windowsupdate.microsoft.com

Ximian GNOME itself is a whole GUI, based on Nautilus file manager.
 
I downloaded their GUI installer for Ximian Gnome. It asks you for proxy settings during the install. It appears to be just like the lynx install except you get a GUI that shows the current status of whats going on in the shell.
 
Need help as i have no idea

ok i tried typing in the command

lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh

and then it says

bash: lynx command not found

which i presume means that lynx is not installed

So how do i install lynx? I am running a FRESH install of Red Hat 7.2 which i am booting from a disk cause i could not work out how to duel boot with my WinXP NTFS partition.
Could someone help me with this and a whole stack of other probs i have?
I am brand new to Linux and as the title says "I have no idea"
Thanx guys
 
Assuming your CD-drive is working, do the following:
Put Red Hat CD2 into the drive.
Clean install turns automounting on as default for CDs, so your CD-ROM directory should appear automatically.
Open terminal window.
Type:
rpm -iv /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/lynx-2
and hit "Tab". It should fill the rest automatically (in my RH7.2 CD2, there's lynx-2.8.4-17.i386.rpm)
Hit enter.
After a few seconds, lynx should be installed.
 
ok thanx mate it works fine now
i'll post bak here soon with my next prob after this is finished
should not be too long downloading at over 400kbps
god i love cable
thanx
 
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