Intel's future technologies will arrive in server chips before PC CPUs

[midian182]

Intel held its annual investor day last week, and while the big news was that the company’s eighth-generation Core CPUs would remain on a 14nm manufacturing node, it also announced that the firm was going “data center first.”

Intel has in the past brought its new chip technologies to the PC market before making their way to servers, but the company's head of server chips, Diane Bryant revealed that this process is changing.

While the worldwide PC market is stagnating, the data center sector continues to see rapid growth. An Intel presentation showed that the total available market (TAM) – the maximum available revenue the company could generate if it owned the entire sector – was $30 billion for its PC CPU business. For data centers, the figure is more than double - $65 billion.

As part of the company’s restructuring, “each of the functional groups inside of Intel look at their business and their investments and their strategies, in the context of making the data center a priority,” said Intel’s data center chief, Diane Bryant. “And that includes being first to launch on a next-generation process technology node, and that’s a big deal.”

As noted by Fortune, with the amount of time it takes to develop each new generation of chips, we probably won’t see the effects of this shift in strategy for a few years. It’s likely to be 2019’s 10nm Tiger Lake chips that arrive for servers first, followed by the company’s 7 nm chips.

While the move is unlikely to be welcomed by PC fans, it doesn’t spell the end for the platform. Like any company, Intel is just placing its primary focus on where the money is. The good news is that even as the PC market declined, the success of Intel’s Core i7 chips saw the firm raise its operating profits by 30 percent – a trend that’s expected to continue.

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[Forebode]

This could be a mistake if Ryzen offers comparable benchmarks for a great savings. Is Intel prepared to trade profits for data-center over consumer? If Ryzen is a proper competitor, how can they expect to see a continual raise to i7 sales?

 

[misor]

This could be a mistake if Ryzen offers comparable benchmarks for a great savings. Is Intel prepared to trade profits for data-center over consumer? If Ryzen is a proper competitor, how can they expect to see a continual raise to i7 sales?

maybe intel thinks that ryzen is not a real threat since their upcoming cpu will still be on 14nm node.

 

[Dimitrios]

Sounds like they know AMD will grab the desktop market and INTEL is scampering to their money maker aka Servers before AMD does. Let's face it, IBM admitted desktop cpu's are bread crumbs. ARM and AMD will slowly eat INTEL away since Intel has shi* for graphics.Why doesn't Intel buy Nvidia? Lets face the truth, there is more demand in gpu's then cpu's. Slowly Intel is hitting that WALL so they are nursing the speed increases, nurse and milk your customers for so long and before you know it BAM! AMD will be breathing on the back of your neck. AMD isn't dying any time soon and the stock market said they would be bankrupt back in 2005-2008. There stock is doing crazy good and they have a new CEO and Lisa may be the best CEO anyone has seen since Steve Jobs.

 

[Evernessince]

Sounds like they know AMD will grab the desktop market and INTEL is scampering to their money maker aka Servers before AMD does. Let's face it, IBM admitted desktop cpu's are bread crumbs. ARM and AMD will slowly eat INTEL away since Intel has shi* for graphics.Why doesn't Intel buy Nvidia? Lets face the truth, there is more demand in gpu's then cpu's. Slowly Intel is hitting that WALL so they are nursing the speed increases, nurse and milk your customers for so long and before you know it BAM! AMD will be breathing on the back of your neck. AMD isn't dying any time soon and the stock market said they would be bankrupt back in 2005-2008. There stock is doing crazy good and they have a new CEO and Lisa may be the best CEO anyone has seen since Steve Jobs.

30 Billion is not "breadcrumbs" in any business. IBM stands by server because that's all it's been doing for the last 10 years. In addition to that 30 Billion, the architecture from the Desktop market propagates to the server and mobile markets. So essentially a really good CPU architecture for Intel means 135 Billion in total. That's considering that Intel still has very little mobile marketshare.

"Lets face the truth, there is more demand in gpu's then cpu's."

That's because there have been little to zero CPU improvements. You can rest assured, Intel isn't hitting a wall. They've simply been abusing their monopoly position. You can't sit there and tell me Pascal can squeeze massive improvements out of the same maxwell architecture while Intel can't do the same. In fact if Intel wanted to it could have been using higher density cache on it's processors for some time now. The increase in cache size alone can give up to 20% more performance is some applications. The only reason they don't is because it's more expensive. The same reason they no longer solder their processors and why they made Skylake so thin. Instead of improving performance they have been integrating more and more onto the CPU die that was previously on the motherboard.

 

[fktech]

Incremental improvement, meh...

 

[Forebode]

Sounds like they know AMD will grab the desktop market and INTEL is scampering to their money maker aka Servers before AMD does. Let's face it, IBM admitted desktop cpu's are bread crumbs. ARM and AMD will slowly eat INTEL away since Intel has shi* for graphics.Why doesn't Intel buy Nvidia? Lets face the truth, there is more demand in gpu's then cpu's. Slowly Intel is hitting that WALL so they are nursing the speed increases, nurse and milk your customers for so long and before you know it BAM! AMD will be breathing on the back of your neck. AMD isn't dying any time soon and the stock market said they would be bankrupt back in 2005-2008. There stock is doing crazy good and they have a new CEO and Lisa may be the best CEO anyone has seen since Steve Jobs.

Could you cite your sources for the statement that there is more of a demand for gpu's over cpus? I feel like AMD has died... and came back a few times. This most recent time, they are coming back with Ryzen. Although Ryzen is feeling like Lucid Motors. Lots of show with no release. Too much information/hype makes me worry of the final product. A lot of information but none of which anyone really cares about. 8/16? GREAT, 4.0ghz? eh.. yay?, benchmarks with underclocked matched frequencies? um.. why? ... benchmarks from multiple sources vs stock cpus? NOPE. Benchmarks of OC ryzen and intel? NOPE.

I want to see benchmarks, I keep putting off a rebuild.. in hopes that someone releases something worthwhile.