Iran to block the entire internet, replacing it with "clean" intranet

Techspot has some terrible moderators.
Must be in their early to mid 20's.

@cap meth comes from germany, it was made by hitlers scientists in ww2 if i remember right, speaking of which 10 days til his birthday 4\20

"The report is in no way confirmed by the ministry"
Who knows if any of this is true but it would be a nice way for Iran to stop a rebellion like what happened in Egypt and all those other middle eastern countries that have already faded from memory. I noticed a lot of news outlets accrediting social media for the rebellions, looks like Iran took it to heart. Actually I thought Iran already had something like this and I assume N Korea does. By the way I fully support countries over throwing dictators, a false sense of being in control of your country is much better then a dictatorship.

@tyg its usually americans that say americas next not foreigners, usually victims of fear media, i guess if u keep bending over u stop being a victim after a while and become a participant. its not the idea of peace that scares iran its the fear of rebellion. really the straw man thing again lol, it seems like you tell that to anyone who disagrees with you.

@Arizona law, sigh my state looks so stupid


p.s. amstech in the news section childish arguing makes up half the posts on anything remotely political

p.s.s. i like the moderation on techspot

And you're absolutely positive that you could do better, aren't ya now? Why would that be? Because you don't like the direction this topic is heading?

Truth is, plenty of my posts get pulled, mostly because I don't baby anybody's feelings. I don't resort to name calling, or threats either though.

In all 1st Amendment arguments such as this, I usually refer the participants, to the book, "Yelling Fire", by Alan Dershowitz..


If Arizona tries to enforce such frivolous legislation, against internet trolling, I suggest the parties move to another state, or at least one of the parties. Cause I'm damned sure Arizona wouldn't be able to enforce this across state lines. Which, need I mention, the internet certainly does cross.

Also, need I point out that, "making terroristic threats", is already a felony?

We certainly have embraced it as if it was our own though, haven't we?

I saw a cute little thing about how many of the things in our every day lives come from other cultures and countries. A brief recap, "Turkish Towels", and "Chinese Gunpowder".

Yeah cap its yet to be passed, I believe even if the governor signs it which I think she will since she loves attention, it still needs further approval which according to my local news stations aint likely. Since its copy pasted from the phone law(s) on such matters it would likely only be looked into if someone filed a complaint there wont be people being paid to browse forums looking for insults lol, well I just stated the obvious good day.

@methcap sadly yes

btw I dont know if the chinese ever put gunpowder into guns before the europeans got a hold of it

Yeah well, this is commonly referred to as, "Sarah Palin Syndrome". Hopefully for the Arizonans, this debacle will make her famous, and she'll up and quit.

No, perhaps not. But, they did put it into rockets before Werner Von Braun and the Germans.....:rolleyes:

(Please don't bust my stones about this, I do know the difference between hydrazine and gunpowder. The whole gunpowder thing is simply funnier, that's all).

The best example of things Americans have embraced from other countries I can possibly think of is, the "Stafford-shire Bull Terrier". Yeah, that's right. The Brits invented the pit bull.

@ tree
Check out the history of gunpowder in China. Its actually kinda interesting what the chinese did with gunpowder before guns. Fireworks is the first that comes to mind for most ppl. The interesting part was how they incorporated gunpowder to make the first powered arrows. Also youre prolly thinking someone else about straw man. Thats the first time I have ever brought it up as it was the first time I personally have had a reason to bring it up.

That Law in Arizona wont stand the constitutional test. It directly contradicts the first amendment.

Oh probably, someone straw manned me the other week thought it was you.

QUOTE:

"The ministry responded to the false report saying, "the propaganda wing of the West and providing its hostile media with a pretext emanating from a baseless claim."

Interestingly, officials did say they have plans to build a "national information network" that would function as a intranet for the country's internet users. No information was provided about whether the internet would exist alongside it, or be blocked as the original report suggests, but it sounds eerily close to the original report by the minister for Information and Communications."


The above summarises (if indeed correctly qouted) the mentality and ignorance this countries leaders adopt and enforce, if russias and china were not so defensive of Iran i would say nuke them but as it is the other 2 facist countries would start a bio terrorism or worse scenario upon any who want to instill a sense of community.

Not really a fan of killing millions of innocent people. Iran will never attack the usa OR nuke another country, why would the rich aholes in charge risk it all? They just pander to the public wants like every country. There scape goat is the west. USA scape goats and distractions are gay marriage, Iran, N Korea, immigration, abortion, bird flu, el nino, killer bees, killer pythons, y2k, k2y, that flu in Mexico that appeared and disappeared in the same month, ozone, global warming and the biggest of all RIGHT VS LEFT politics.

Jeez, I must be thick skinned. I thought this was actually pretty civilized, as hot button issues go.

And you caught me, it's actually "Shouting Fire", by Alan Dershowitz, that attaches to FOS 1st Amendment issues. (I posted "Yelling Fire" earlier).

Thaaankx Leeky, now you just took away all unbridled joy I get from generating offensive material, and for no good reason....:rolleyes:

Well, Leeky, as difficult as it might be for you to , "wrap your head around" (as the children say), I'm going back to listening to Loreena McKennitt now.

A paradox, I know....

I'm sorry but in the original source www.ict.gov.ir is nothing written about this article.
I'm not quite sure based on what did google write that article.
I live in Iran myself, and from what I have 'heard' (yes still rumors, even confirmed stuff might change over a few days in Iran, that's the way it works), they are not gonna literally replace the internet with an intranet, BUT only providing the country with more servers, hosts, and datacenters so they can upload pages and data to those internal datacenters so people at home can access that data with a much higher speed than with the regular internet we currently have.
And above that, the bandwith used by people will no longer matter for ISPs cause currently they are paying a huge amount of money for the bandwith to I.C.T.
Means less bandwith, less traffic used by the internet, faster speed with intranet.
And the internet will still be accessible for people who need it.
How do you guys think large companies or factories would import stuff if the internet was COMPLETELY blocked? By telephone? Srsly...
They can't completely block the internet and they know that.
But only time will tell

they are trying to stop the information leaking about atomic stuff....

@ tigerstrike

Most of the websites people go to are privately owned. Unless you commit a crime on the internet, rights are useless. But the government can still shut it a website down and pull information from most servers because their owners will roll right over for the govt. In all practicality, you don't really tend to have much rights on the internet. If I were to get obviously offensive, my comment would be removed. If you tell a person to **** off in reality, you have the right to do so and it won't change a thing... unless of course u end up fighting the person. I could go around and say "**** you" to everyone I see today. If I did that for every comment i made, I would be banned. You can get kicked out of private property for any reason really but you actually have to break the law to be kicked out of a public place. If someone here (and im not saying techspot would or would not do this) decided they did not agree with what I said, they could remove my post. I could try to sue for that I guess but i wouldnt win a penny. You have much more against you on the internet that you have rights protecting you. Free speech can be a right all it wants, that doesnt mean its applied to everything.

If you had mentioned that the right isnt practical to the internet, I wouldnt have. But im just a troll what do i know right?

Let's not forget about the 0-day bugs/exploits/malware that the U.S. govt pays top dollar for. Until more rights specifically designed for the internet are passed, the government WILL use the lack thereof to its advantage. No on else. For now, current rights on the internet are for the most part a joke.

Your comment proves that you are a clueless *****. It was the Sunnis that funded and supported Al-Qaeda, not Iran since both Iran and Al-Qaeda are mortal enemies. Same goes for Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria are fighting against Assad supported by Iran, the very country you falsely accused of funding and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

No, Allah curse Qatar for holding my friend prisoner for three weeks! His crime? For bringing poppy seed bagels that violated Qatar's drug laws.The poppy seeds are innocuous yet Qatar authorities classified them as illegal drugs! How ridiculous is that!? This just show that Qatar is still a backward country despite calling themselves the most liberal country in the Middle East.

I spit on that country!