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Is Having More RAM Better??

By porsche911r
Feb 8, 2008
  1. Is there a real solution to how much mem u shud really have 2gb seems to be the thing but is having more better???
     
  2. Eddie_42

    Eddie_42 TS Rookie Posts: 213

    depends on what you are doing. If you use your computer for office tasks and email then 1Gb is plenty. If you are using it for 3d renderings of a wiring harness on the space shuttle, best go for 4Gb. The average user has no need for more then 2Gb (on XP), this will be enough for some video rendering, music, multitasking, etc. Anything more starts getting into a professional level and they know what they need.

    Note: Vista needs a bit more memory. Im not a 'user' of the OS so I'm not entirely sure what requirements are needed for each package, Home vs. Ultimate. But i do believe they are higher.
     
  3. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    ok cool is there a performance boost when gaming??
     
  4. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,474   +329

    Parkinson's Law of Resources applies;
    Whatever resources are available, they [all] will be consumed.
    The 2gb is very nice and the max for 32bit machines is 3gb.
    (btw; be sure your pagefile is 2x your ram:) )

    The two resources that get 'consumed' are HD and RAM. After that, you want
    bus speed and cpu cycles to make it hum.

    You're going to need some heavy processing to have some single application 'starve'
    for memory and most of us don't come close to paging to death our systems
    (ie when you start paging heavily on a regular basis, THEN you need more ram).
     
  5. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    ooohhh lool ook well having more mem is technically better then
     
  6. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,474   +329

    so is 1000 horse power engine, but where can you use it?

    don't go crazy here -- monitor the paging and THEN see if you need it :)
     
  7. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    looll hahaha yeh ur right dude ill check it. u guys know when the new nvidia gpu is out?? the 9000 somthing....
     
  8. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,582

    make your page file 2 to 3 time your commit charge not your physical memory
    do alt control delete
    open up 2 to 3 programs that you use normally
    look at the commit charge
    set your page file to 2 to 3 times
    play with it to get a smooth fast running machine


    thats my story and I'm stick'n to it
    ;)
     
  9. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,474   +329

    there are many ways to tune systems :) PEACE.
     
  10. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    lol funny enough the settings which i set already was perfect for my system which is weird because i had just put random guess init LOL but yeh joebeard ur rit dude there are MANY ways of tunin systems. thAnks for ur helps guys as usual
     
  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    A Question of Balance......

    If you install more than 2GB of RAM in a 32 bit XP box, you can run into more problems than you solve. To even utilize more than 2GB, you have to implement the "3 Gigabyte switch" (Google that). XP refuses (by default) more than 2GB to programs. Consequently, depending on which program is involved, you can get an "out of memory" error when more than 2GB is installed in spite of the fact it's actually available. There seems to be a different way XP reports available RAM depending on if it's using it or if it's simply refusing it. I hope that explanation makes sense.
     
     
  12. Edwin Phate

    Edwin Phate TS Rookie Posts: 180

    so having 1gig ram i should have 2 gigs (2048mb on page filing?)
     
  13. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    yoo captain dude u basically mean that anything more then 2 gigs u have to switch to 64bit which just makes more sense that trying to fix 32bit for running more then 2 gigs
     
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    Heartache...,And So Close To Valentines Day....!

    Any 32 bit OS will break your heart when you try to install 3 or 4 GB of memory. In the real world, the biggest performance jump with XP comes at 512MB to 1GB. When you go to 2GB there's an improvement true, but it's not as noticeable. Programmers are pretty conservative about memory use in most cases, since if the system requirements are too high, they can't sell the software.

    High hardware requirements is still one of the biggest complaints about Vista at the moment, is it not?

    When you go to 3D, High Def movie, and professional photo editing software the need for extravagant amounts of RAM is actual, since the file sizes are enormous. If this is the work you're trying to do, then a 64 bit OS is called for. For anything else, treat yourself to the 2GB, and be happy!
     
  15. Bigfellla

    Bigfellla TS Rookie Posts: 108

    3GB will run fine in a 32bit operating system, in fact a 32 bit operating system can address a total (including graphcis etc) of 3.2GB of memory without an issue. 2GB is the minimum for vista (it idles using 1GB approx) whereas 1GB is min for XP.
     
  16. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    It's All in a Name.........

    True enough, but this fact usually results in a thread involving "I put 4GB pf RAM in my computer and now it's only showing 3.2. It's still in large part unnecessary. Please Google "3GB switch".
    Oddly enough, I believe they still sell it with only 1GB installed. What you call "idling", M$ calls "superfetch", and it's actually running programs before you decide to launch them.
     
  17. porsche911r

    porsche911r TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 119

    yah LOL i mean i got 6GB ram only because i dont wanna chuck my kingston memory away i mean i dont really see a massive difference. the only benefit i get is i can run alot of things without any lagg.
     
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