Many problems, computer unstable. Need Help

By Nick_krambo
Feb 19, 2008
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  1. I am having BSOD crashes left and right. I haven't found a driver that needs to be updated or any hardware compatibility issues.

    The most recent of errors are "driver_irql_less_or_equal" and "memory_management".

    I have had errors with my display driver, windows explorer, and have never been able to successfully overclock any part of my system without crash.

    I am in need of answers and would like any possible help to make my computer run well.
  2. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    Read the sticky above in these forums entitled "Before posting your minidumps" by Julio.

    And if that doesn't work attach your minidumps.

    0xD1 "driver_irql_less_or_equal" errors are caused by drivers trying to access an address they aren't supposed to. What that driver is we can't tell at the moment.
  3. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I have done a fair amount of troubleshooting and am not liking what I have seen. This is all been quite frustrating as my computer has gotten at least 9 different stop error messages in the past 2 and a half hours. Heres what I have done:

    Cleaned my machine
    Completed 2 successful memtest passes
    Updated my bios
    Updated my video drivers
    Checked my temperatures
    checked voltages

    I can't defrag because my computer crashes too much.

    The interesting thing is that speed fan is reporting that no volts are coming through my +3.3 rail. I'm not sure if this means something is very wrong, or if I just don't have anything attached to it. Replacing my power supply won't be a hard fix, but i definitely don't want to spend the money if it isn't necessary.

    I'm really getting pissed as I can't even post this so I had to copy the minidumps on to a usb drive, then post from my laptop. I Have attached the last 5 minidumps in this file.
  4. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    Your first minidump reported error 0x7F:

    SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    A system thread generated an exception which the error handler did not catch. There are numerous individual causes for this problem, including hardware incompatibility, a faulty device driver or system service, or some software issues.
    It is suggested that youCheck Event Viewer (EventVwr.msc) for additional information.

    Your second is a 0x0A: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    Typically due to a bad driver, or faulty or incompatible hardware or software.

    Your third is a 0x7E: 0x0000007E: SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

    See 7F above for details.


    Fourth is 0x4E: PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

    This indicates that the memory management Page File Number list is corrupted. Can be caused by corrupt physical RAM, or by drivers passing bad memory descriptor lists. I know you did MemTest but the minimum of acceptable passes is 7. However, I think in your case it is a driver.

    The last is 0x1E: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

    The Windows kernel detected an illegal or unknown processor instruction. A Stop 0x1E condition can be caused by invalid memory and access violations.


    * There is only one distinct driver that was listed avgfw2kv.exe which is a driver for the AVG firewall. I used to have Sunbelt's firewall and one driver, inspite of 5 upgrade versions, always caused me BSODs. I would go to their website and read up more concerning this. it could be this driver is just not accessing correctly.

    * I would run chkdsk.

    * If your PSU is faulty that will cause major system issues. What make and model is it?
  5. cpc2004

    cpc2004 Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,044

    This is hardware problem. 80% of is related to faulty ram. Reseat the ram to another memory slot may resolve the blue screen.
  6. haloman

    haloman Newcomer, in training Posts: 73

    your computer sounds like its whack

    kinda like my pc...lol

    GO BUY A NEW COMPUTER
  7. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I haven't been able to find much about any problems with that avg driver, but i have had problems before installing that program so I don't believe that is the issue. I haven't gotten a chance to run chkdsk yet but i will. I have reseated and changed out the RAM with a couple of different sticks and still the same dilemma. A possible ram compatibilaty issue? I don't think so though.

    My Power supply is a
    Ultra ULT31844 X-Finity 500W ATX Power Supply (Titanium) Retail
  8. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    I would also run a harddrive diagnostics.
  9. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I ran a chkdsk with no problems and while aquiring a hard drive diagnostic i got a 0x000000c5 BSOD. So I am pretty sure this is the result of a bad driver not hardware. I have attatched the mini dump
  10. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    According to your minidump code error your assumption is correct. It is a driver. From auhma.org -

    0xC5: DRIVER_CORRUPTED_EXPOOL
    An attempt occurred to touch invalid memory at a process IRQL that is too high. This is almost always caused by drivers that have corrupted the system pool. If you’ve recently installed any new software, check to see if it’s properly installed; and check for updated drivers on the manufacturer’s web site.

    The driver cited is USBPORT.SYS which a USB driver in Windows for 1.1 and 2.0.

    I
  11. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    How do i go about updating that driver? ( i assume that is what i should do)
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  13. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I am having trouble identifying the driver that needs to be updated. The driver USBPORT.SYS is found in the "standard enhanced PCI to USB host controller." My mouse and keyboard software are both up to date. My printer is a very old laser printer that is converted to usb. I can't even start my computer now without a 0x000000D1 error if its not in safe mode. There doesn't seem to be a usb update for my motherboard and microsoft won't verify that my software is genuine in safemode so I can't even download from them.
  14. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Hmm, please unplug that, and uninstall the drivers (maybe confirm you still have the drivers first).
    Also uninstall any converter drivers (parallel to USB or whatever it is)
    Hmm Hmm!, that doesn't sound right, you may need to phone them (use contact on their site) But if this is a cr@cked version, then you need to be aware that these OS's are not a perfect copy, ie their cr@cked ! Anyway I'm not implying just letting you know.
  15. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I unplugged the printer (it is a parallel to usb cable) and I don't believe I even have a driver installed for it. Still no boot without crash. I managed to get it to boot with "last known good configuration" but it probably won't be stable. Microsoft now verifies the software, so i could download something, but after about 2 minutes i get a BSOD stop: 0x0000000A IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. No ideas...
  16. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    oh verifies the driver software. Oh I thought you meant the entire OS.

    Anyway, please uninstall the printer too. (more work I know)
  17. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    Can you post this minidump?
  18. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I deleted the printer from my computer. Couldn't find any drivers or anything else that relates to it. Should there be?
  19. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Here are the last 5 crashes. No crash yet, going on 5 min strong.
  20. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    No removing the printer should hopefully remove the driver too, but just in case go to Add/Remove software and check.
  21. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Inside the MiniDumps

    BugCheck A, {0, 2, 1, fffff80001e8bd05}
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiUnlinkFreeOrZeroedPage+45 )
    Followup: MachineOwner

    BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc000001d, fffff800020cf5cb, fffffa6001bf3aa8, fffffa6001bf3480}
    Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!CmpDelayDerefKeyControlBlock+fb )
    Followup: MachineOwner

    *** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KeInsertQueueDpc+74 )
    Followup: MachineOwner

    *** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KeInsertQueueDpc+74 )
    Followup: MachineOwner
    BugCheck D1, {fffffa6003405809, 2, 8, fffffa6003405809}
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
    Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NuidFltr.sys, Win32 error 0n2
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for NuidFltr.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for NuidFltr.sys
    Probably caused by : NuidFltr.sys ( NuidFltr+5809 )
    Followup: MachineOwner

    ------------

    Edit:I'd say run MEMTEST
  22. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,113   +23

    I need to go to bed but the oone driver that was listed is NuidFltr.sys and I suugest googling it to see what you can come up with.

    Also, memory corruption was listed. Have you run MemTest?
  23. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    From post #4
    So you're saying that because you didn't follow direction by Route44, this thread has had 18 extra (not required) posts?

    I hope not!
  24. Nick_krambo

    Nick_krambo Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Wow i believe the printer thing may have solved my case! I'll run some stability tests and such and see how it fairs. Thanks for all of the help!
  25. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I believe it was the memory accessing the printer driver
    (When there's two problems, it's harder to detect)

    Anyway test for a few hours and reply back.

    Edit:

    Read through the posts again, here's the info on NuidFltr.sys http://www.runscanner.net/process.aspx?p=nuidfltr.sys
    Sounds like parallel to USB printer to me.
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