Microsoft finally admits its malware-like Windows 10 upgrade tricks "went too far"

[Kunming]

And here in America we have a word for it 'Infringement'. Just because theft of intellectual property is embedded in your street vendors economic model and your country's methods doesn't make it morally correct or legal.
FYI, innovation is making something new, not stealing something from someone else, copying it, and reselling it as your own idea.

Most of what's called "infringement" isn't really. Half the reason infringement and copyright are even on the table these days, is because big vested rich and greedy interests bought their way into Congress, to make laws that help line their own pockets. To the detriment of everyone else - including you. To the point where, if you draw mickey mouse on a piece of paper, that's infringement as well. Just not enforcible, if you keep it private. But infringement it is. Copying is what humans do bruh and it's good.

If that's the definition of innovation, Apple owns some Koreans an apology I see ;D... Most of them do lmao.

Don't protect those greedy corps. They'd have you think pirates are bad too.

http://copy-me.org/2015/10/ep-4-pirates-anti-piracy-artists/

 

[captaincranky]

Did that get you 2k likes?

Actually, it didn't get me any. Maybe it's still a tad too abstract for a tech forum. I can still hope I'm able to offend the, "wow whee, Windows 10 is the best OS ever" fan boi crowd with it.

In other news, I don't think Verizon caps data on their home network. At least I've never been able to find or breech any limits. So, what's a data cap", was sort of a rhetorical question.

 

[Yynxs]

And here in America we have a word for it 'Infringement'. Just because theft of intellectual property is embedded in your street vendors economic model and your country's methods doesn't make it morally correct or legal.
FYI, innovation is making something new, not stealing something from someone else, copying it, and reselling it as your own idea.

Most of what's called "infringement" isn't really. Half the reason infringement and copyright are even on the table these days, is because big vested rich and greedy interests bought their way into Congress, to make laws that help line their own pockets. To the detriment of everyone else - including you. To the point where, if you draw mickey mouse on a piece of paper, that's infringement as well. Just not enforcible, if you keep it private. But infringement it is. Copying is what humans do bruh and it's good.

If that's the definition of innovation, Apple owns some Koreans an apology I see ;D... Most of them do lmao.

Don't protect those greedy corps. They'd have you think pirates are bad too.

http://copy-me.org/2015/10/ep-4-pirates-anti-piracy-artists/

So when you say "most" you mean "all". You want stuff free. Probably because you don't know how to make money.

And no, that's not why it's on the table. It's on the table because Google stole from everyone and then sold links to what was stolen as advertising space. Microsoft and the first world didn't remotely believe the rest of the world considered "property rights" a negotiable (depends on what I can get away with) concept, so they didn't build well enough to protect themselves. Like most things, it used to be an honorable profession, but 'little thieves' tend to get into everything to become 'big thieves' like Google.

Your use of the term "greedy" indicates a vast ignorance of business. Your use of 'most' to allow damage to 'all' indicates a very low economic status. Should you acquire some economic resources and attempt to retain them, you will find your 'opinion' of other people's/businesses' methods change.

and just btw, your use of "They'd have you think pirates are bad too." indicates poor trolling technique. When you troll, you must maintain a reasonable intellectual level to the group you are posting.

 

[Kunming]

So when you say "most" you mean "all". You want stuff free. Probably because you don't know how to make money.

And no, that's not why it's on the table. It's on the table because Google stole from everyone and then sold links to what was stolen as advertising space. Microsoft and the first world didn't remotely believe the rest of the world considered "property rights" a negotiable (depends on what I can get away with) concept, so they didn't build well enough to protect themselves. Like most things, it used to be an honorable profession, but 'little thieves' tend to get into everything to become 'big thieves' like Google.

Your use of the term "greedy" indicates a vast ignorance of business. Your use of 'most' to allow damage to 'all' indicates a very low economic status. Should you acquire some economic resources and attempt to retain them, you will find your 'opinion' of other people's/businesses' methods change.

and just btw, your use of "They'd have you think pirates are bad too." indicates poor trolling technique. When you troll, you must maintain a reasonable intellectual level to the group you are posting.

Of course I want stuff for Free, that's called Freedom . That's not to say I don't pay for stuff.

I'm not trolling in regards to pirates lol. Haven't you seen the destruction wrought by the MPAA/RIAA and all the other similar groups? These days the police would rather break into your house with a SWAT team to catch you illegally downloading a movie, but don't have enough resources to solve rape and murder cases lol. To speak nothing of the constant erosion of internet freedoms, thanks to these same people lobbying politicians.

Given capitalism, of course it's strange calling companies greedy lmao. But when Apple doesn't pay its Chinese workers enough as it perhaps should or creates good environments for them, then I'm inclined to call that greed. Especially when the CEOs get a huge chunk of the money.

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]....I'm not trolling in regards to pirates lol. Haven't you seen the destruction wrought by the MPAA/RIAA and all the other similar groups? These days the police would rather break into your house with a SWAT team to catch you illegally downloading a movie, but don't have enough resources to solve rape and murder cases lol. To speak nothing of the constant erosion of internet freedoms, thanks to these same people lobbying politicians..

Yeah well, it's a lot safer storming an illegal down loader's house than a drug kingpin's. You can draw your own conclusions about what I mean by that.

Incidentally, it's now illegal in England to make mixed tapes. So yes boyz and gurlz, the RIAA & MPAA are the tail wagging the rest of this dog eat dog world.

 

[Kunming]

Yeah well, it's a lot safer storming an illegal down loader's house than a drug kingpin's. You can draw your own conclusions about what I mean by that.

Incidentally, it's now illegal in England to make mixed tapes. So yes boyz and gurlz, the RIAA & MPAA are the tail wagging the rest of this dog eat dog world.

What's not illegal in england
They also use surveillance powers to feed on hardcore criminals, such as those feeding pigeons.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...igatory-powers-ripa-to-secretly-spy-on-public

 

[Nobina]

Not just the updates, but Windows and MS themselves. They're unwanted, dangerous, affect many people and are pretty much just terrible. And when a Windows 10 update causes some hospital or business computer to update, it can in fact ruin someone's life. So yeah, cancer and MS/Windows do have a lot of similarities. But hey, let's look at the bright side, at least Windows doesn't have any backdoors or such things, which would allow a state-level actor to spy on people at will and subvert democracy right?

http://techrights.org/2013/12/22/rsa-and-microsoft-germany/

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/140310104147-edward-snowden-1024x576.jpg

Ah f**ck me...

As I already said, while Microsoft have their issues, they are still not unwanted, dangerous and just terrible. You can't give any solid arguments except small annoyances and call them names. It's not like they are the only company to that spy on you. Every big company does it, not that it makes it ok but it just shows how biased you are against Microsoft, comparing them with cancer and everything. That is not normal thinking.

 

[Puiu]

Ubuntu & Linux Mint disagree. A lot of it isn't necessarily to do with command-line anything or such. A lot of it is to do with ignorance. Many people don't even know they have the option to ditch Apple and Microsoft entirely.

clearly... those 2 are so so good for casual users...
ignorance must be the reason they aren't more popular!

 

[Kunming]

clearly... those 2 are so so good for casual users...
ignorance must be the reason they aren't more popular!

Lol, I don't understand, because it's true that they are good for filthy casuals lol. Especially compared to, saaay, ArchLinux, Gentoo and so forth . Ignorance is indeed to blame! Tons of people grew up thinking there's only 2 systems: Mac and Windows lol.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Tons of people grew up thinking there's only 2 systems: Mac and Windows lol.

What is this Mac you speak of? lol

 

[Kunming]

What is this Mac you speak of? lol

It's this burger which can't decide if it's an apple or not

 

[MonsterZero]

I love Windows 10. On my core i7,TitanX,32GB DDR4, 4TB SSD desktop running multimonitors, it's the best OS I've ever had. The most stable OS I've ever had. The best cloud-service OS I've ever had.

The upgrade process and the overall tactics used to force users into upgrading, however, are terrible.

Wow, I actually agree with you on this

 

[captaincranky]

As I already said, while Microsoft have their issues, they are still not unwanted, dangerous and just terrible. You can't give any solid arguments except small annoyances and call them names. It's not like they are the only company to that spy on you. Every big company does it, not that it makes it ok but it just shows how biased you are against Microsoft, comparing them with cancer and everything. That is not normal thinking.

In reality, both of you are a little bit right. I didn't have any bias against M$, until this Windows 10 sh!t storm hit.

Microsoft now, under the new management, is a far different, far worse company, than it was under Bill Gates.

They are abusing their position in the market profusely, and in a ham fisted, rude, and inconsiderate manner. They have taken away vast amounts of user control with their new forced updates tactics. They are trying to close the system up to a point approaching Apple's maniacal vision of itself as, "royalty who can do whatever it pleases".

This "apology" from them IMO, is utterly meaningless. Their still forcing the same tracking, updates, ads for their store in what's supposed to be a bought and paid for OS. In addition to which, they're colluding with Intel, making such announcements as, "the next generation of processors won't work with anything but Windows 10. That's what I call abuse of power, on a global, monopolistic scale.

Their new CEO, is just pushy, with no discernible talent, other than to copy all the BS which Apple is hated for, and ramming it down Windows users throats. He brings business tactics to the tech world, which are more appropriate for a market in a New Delhi slum.

And yeah, he's more than likely doing this for less than half the wages of Bill Gates, who BTW, dealt with his customers civilly.

 

[captaincranky]

I love Windows 10. On my core i7,TitanX,32GB DDR4, 4TB SSD desktop running multimonitors, it's the best OS I've ever had. The most stable OS I've ever had. The best cloud-service OS I've ever had.

Sometimes it seems you post simply to supply us with a laundry list of your toys. It does get tedious.

The upgrade process and the overall tactics used to force users into upgrading, however, are terrible.

Nothing has actually changed, just the promotion of a "free copy of Windows 10", has run out. The rest of their new crappy approach is still with us.

 

[chumchingee]

Windows 10 has benefits. Probably the best system they have put out in years.
The problem is it is monopoly, plain and simple.
In the process, they wrote it in such a way that the average person can not opt for something else, like say Ubuntu easily.
They rewrote the way a bios acts.
I am surprised that at least 49 attorney generals in 49 separate states have not charged them under Sherman Anti-trust for what they have done.
The other problem is XP and VISTA. Both of which are valid operating systems no longer supported. That means upgrades for a whole lot of small businesses that can ill-afford to do so. The current printers only work with obsolete systems if they were completely up to date systems to begin with. So once the system crashes which it will inevitably crash as it was written poorly to begin with, then the upgrades are no longer available and the choice is to scrap everything and start over (to the tune of approximately 14 grand) or if you are lucky go into something like Linux based systems and scrap windows all together.
IF windows was going to be fair about it they should have left the upgrades and service packs available so the little guy actually has a chance to stay in business.
Microsoft is a giant corporation. They can do whatever they want without regards to public feelings on the matter.
Tread carefully. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. And all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put Humpty back together again.
I suggest you put those antique service packs back in place and allow all those small businesses running antique systems the ability to stay in business.
I suggest you rewrite windows 10 in a manner that allows multiple operating systems to easily exist including multiple versions of past windows so you do not automatically obsolete and destroy older programs dependent on older operating systems.
That may be the only way you can avoid Antitrust in the near future.

 

[Trillionsin]

Hey MICROSOFT! I hate Windows 10! 99.99% of ALL THE ATMS IN THE WORLD ARE ON WINDOWS 7! I fought your barrage of tricks for weeks! I want my machine back on Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL!

You know... there was a 30 day period in which you could revert back if you were upgraded without properly acknowledging.

What I hear more often than now nowadays is that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. So chalk it all up to an 'accident' and move on. Personally, I was hardly effected by the Windows 10 upgrade annoyance.

This REALLY WASNT AS BIG OF A DEAL AS SOME OF YOU MAKE IT. It's not like you couldnt go back... sure it was annoying, but with a little google search you could find your answer by either editing the registry, or even installing a helpful little tool like Anti-Beacon (LIKE IT, not IT specifically to remove the update program)

I guess, if you are just helpless to learn and look around, you will be at the company's whims.

I'm sure I'm going to have so many of you quote and reply to me, but I've already been through it all... Yes, Microsoft may have gone too far, but they could still have gone further and they didnt!!! lol I understand that people must complain in order to change things sometimes, but lets face it, a post in a forum on a random tech site isnt going to change anything Microsoft does. Sorry Techspot, still love you guys!

 

[captaincranky]

You know... there was a 30 day period in which you could revert back if you were upgraded without properly acknowledging.

What I hear more often than now nowadays is that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. So chalk it all up to an 'accident' and move on. Personally, I was hardly effected by the Windows 10 upgrade annoyance.

And a whole lot more convenient and self serving, if I might add.

This REALLY WASNT AS BIG OF A DEAL AS SOME OF YOU MAKE IT. It's not like you couldnt go back... sure it was annoying, but with a little google search you could find your answer by either editing the registry, or even installing a helpful little tool like Anti-Beacon (LIKE IT, not IT specifically to remove the update program)

I guess, if you are just helpless to learn and look around, you will be at the company's whims.

I'm sure I'm going to have so many of you quote and reply to me, but I've already been through it all... Yes, Microsoft may have gone too far, but they could still have gone further and they didnt!!! lol I understand that people must complain in order to change things sometimes, but lets face it, a post in a forum on a random tech site isnt going to change anything Microsoft does. Sorry Techspot, still love you guys!

I did not get ONE SINGLE notification or enticement to "upgrade" to Windows 10.

That's because I took the time to READ what an update was going to "do for ME", before I allowed it to be installed. So, when I read,KB-30 blah, blah, blah, was going to "help me install Windows 10", I unchecked it immediately. Still the same old Luddite here, although I suppose if I'd have ever met "Cortana", I'd be missing her. That said, it really isn't "better to have loved and lost", ask any man who's been in divorce court.

 

[DupedbyMS]

Hey MICROSOFT! I hate Windows 10! 99.99% of ALL THE ATMS IN THE WORLD ARE ON WINDOWS 7! I fought your barrage of tricks for weeks! I want my machine back on Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL!

You know... there was a 30 day period in which you could revert back if you were upgraded without properly acknowledging.

What I hear more often than now nowadays is that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. So chalk it all up to an 'accident' and move on. Personally, I was hardly effected by the Windows 10 upgrade annoyance.

This REALLY WASNT AS BIG OF A DEAL AS SOME OF YOU MAKE IT. It's not like you couldnt go back... sure it was annoying, but with a little google search you could find your answer by either editing the registry, or even installing a helpful little tool like Anti-Beacon (LIKE IT, not IT specifically to remove the update program)

I guess, if you are just helpless to learn and look around, you will be at the company's whims.

I'm sure I'm going to have so many of you quote and reply to me, but I've already been through it all... Yes, Microsoft may have gone too far, but they could still have gone further and they didnt!!! lol I understand that people must complain in order to change things sometimes, but lets face it, a post in a forum on a random tech site isnt going to change anything Microsoft does. Sorry Techspot, still love you guys!

 

[DupedbyMS]

Trillionsin
I was forced/tricked whatever you want to call it, into Win10 on my Win7 64bit Dell. It made my computer go crazy including Excel. I used the revert back method from MSFT and got 89 corrupted files, 11 of which were Win10 files left behind and one File in the registry. I’m no computer wiz! I managed to repair about 60 files with a repair from a site called Codeplex. The balance of bad files are things like Defrag, and Backup, plus many others that now cause my CPU to hang and do strange things. Plus a registry file that I have no idea how to fix. It takes 1-3 minutes to open Excel or word now.
You call it minor and just do a simple revert! Well it is not that simple to us non cpu people, and MSFT did the forced upgrade. They know of the problems the revert caused to many CPU’s and they have done nothing to try to repair them – They are CRIMINAL!!! They owe everyone a repair or a new Win7 CD at the least.
Here’s a list of files corrupt on my CPU. By the way, this has taken me over an hour with hangups and one reboot.
89 Tasks are corrupt, that includes 11 tasks that are Win10 Tasks

1 Task image corrupt: Regwork
2 Task image corrupt: {636D275A-0CC2-4B37-B5F1-5DA4333002DC}
3 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Active Directory Rights Management Services Client\AD RMS Rights Policy Template Management (Automated)
4 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Active Directory Rights Management Services Client\AD RMS Rights Policy Template Management (Manual)
5 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\AppID\EDP Policy Manager
6 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\AppID\PolicyConverter
7 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\AppID\SmartScreenSpecific
8 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\AppID\VerifiedPublisherCertStoreCheck
9 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy
10 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Bluetooth\UninstallDeviceTask
11 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\AikCertEnrollTask
12 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\CryptoPolicyTask
13 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\KeyPreGenTask
14 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\SystemTask
15 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\UserTask
16 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient\UserTask-Roam
17 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator
18 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\KernelCeipTask
19 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\UsbCeip
20 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Defrag\ScheduledDefrag
21 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Diagnosis\Scheduled
22 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
23 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticResolver
24 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Location\Notifications
25 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Location\WindowsActionDialog
26 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance\WinSAT
27 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ActivateWindowsSearch
28 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ConfigureInternetTimeService
29 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\DispatchRecoveryTasks
30 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ehDRMInit
31 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\InstallPlayReady
32 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\mcupdate
33 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\mcupdate_scheduled
34 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\MediaCenterRecoveryTask
35 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ObjectStoreRecoveryTask
36 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURActivate
37 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURDiscovery
38 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscovery
39 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW1
40 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW2
41 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrRecoveryTask
42 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrScheduleTask
43 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\RecordingRestart
44 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\RegisterSearch
45 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ReindexSearchRoot
46 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\SqlLiteRecoveryTask
47 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\StartRecording
48 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\UpdateRecordPath
49 Task Microsoft\Windows\MemoryDiagnostic\ProcessMemoryDiagnosticEvents reported 'ERROR: The system cannot find the path specified.'
50 Task Microsoft\Windows\MemoryDiagnostic\RunFullMemoryDiagnostic reported 'ERROR: The system cannot find the path specified.'
51 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\MobilePC\HotStart
52 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\MUI\LPRemove
53 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Multimedia\SystemSoundsService
54 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\NetTrace\GatherNetworkInfo
55 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\PerfTrack\BackgroundConfigSurveyor
56 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Power Efficiency Diagnostics\AnalyzeSystem
57 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\RAC\RacTask
58 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Ras\MobilityManager
59 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Registry\RegIdleBackup
60 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\RemoteAssistance\RemoteAssistanceTask
61 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Shell\CreateObjectTask
62 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Shell\FamilySafetyMonitor
63 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Shell\FamilySafetyRefresh
64 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Shell\IndexerAutomaticMaintenance
65 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Shell\WindowsParentalControls
66 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SideShow\AutoWake
67 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SideShow\GadgetManager
68 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SideShow\SessionAgent
69 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SideShow\SystemDataProviders
70 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SoftwareProtectionPlatform\SvcRestartTask
71 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\SoftwareProtectionPlatform\SvcRestartTaskLogon
72 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\SoftwareProtectionPlatform\SvcRestartTaskNetwork
73 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore\SR
74 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Task Manager\Interactive
75 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Tcpip\IpAddressConflict1
76 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Tcpip\IpAddressConflict2
77 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\TextServicesFramework\MsCtfMonitor
78 Task not installed: Microsoft\Windows\Time Synchronization\ForceSynchronizeTime
79 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Time Synchronization\SynchronizeTime
80 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\UPnP\UPnPHostConfig
81 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\User Profile Service\HiveUploadTask
82 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\WDI\ResolutionHost
83 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\QueueReporting
84 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Windows Filtering Platform\BfeOnServiceStartTypeChange
85 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Windows Media Sharing\UpdateLibrary
86 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\WindowsColorSystem\Calibration Loader
87 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows\Wininet\CacheTask
88 Task image corrupt: Microsoft\Windows Live\SOXE\Extractor Definitions Update Task
89 Task image corrupt: OfficeSoftwareProtectionPlatform\SvcRestartTask
Scan completed: 89 problems found

 

[Sum Guy]

And they are still spamming people with bull. Nows its edge spam every time I use firefox or chrome. It wont let me use firefox until I click the box sometimes.

http://imgur.com/ezvJx1w

 

[cliffordcooley]

And they are still spamming people with bull. Nows its edge spam every time I use firefox or chrome. It wont let me use firefox until I click the box sometimes.

Settings > System > Default Apps > Web browser

Change the value from Edge to your preferred browser.

 

[Sum Guy]

Its already set to chrome. I think the pop up is intrusive, and would like to make it go away forever.

 

[lazer]

Micro$lop has ceased being a good software company years ago. Win7 was their best, win8 was sooo bad, I had it removed from a new laptop and installed win7. Now bloated win10 with spyware installed, adverts too!

I have recently installed Ubuntu on an old Dell that ran XP. It works great, is faster than it used to work and never crashed. Once Linux people find out a decent was to run old windows programs that I have paid for on Ubuntu or Mint etc, I think Micro$lime will slide into oblivion.

 

[lazer]

And they are still spamming people with bull. Nows its edge spam every time I use firefox or chrome. It wont let me use firefox until I click the box sometimes.

http://imgur.com/ezvJx1w

try Ubuntu on a USB key - you might find that Ubuntu is a good solution for you.

 

[DAOWAce]

M$