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Microsoft reportedly paying off popular YouTubers to promote Xbox One

By Justin Kahn
Jan 21, 2014
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  1. It should come to no surprise to many of us that companies regularly pay off popular internet personalities and networks to positively showcase and promote their products. Now reports are suggesting that Microsoft is engaging in this sort of activity...

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  2. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Maniac Posts: 1,166   +241

    Microsoft must be loosing tons of market share for them to stoop this low.. atleast we know how bad the xbox one is now...
  3. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 875   +130

    Why do you feel the need to troll every MS article?
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  4. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Maniac Posts: 1,166   +241

    oh I'm sorry let me change my brain to yours so everyone now thinks like you, please stop acting like microsoft is the perfect child here. If microsoft wasnt THAT desperate as I said why would they resort to this???

    I am pretty sure a few companies which basically did this got a slap on the wrist and a fine its not OK to do this it is just trying to make a sour product look like its good, atleast sony doesnt stoop to these levels.

    No matter how bad a product is paying people to make it looks good just makes the product looks terrible to people with a brain, plus microsoft is huge they dont need to make people say its good unless its actually bad.
  5. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 875   +130

    1. I'm not saying to think like I do, I'm accusing you of bashing MS every chance you get, warranted or not, and it's just tiresome. Obviously MS isn't perfect, no company is. XB1 was the best selling console in the US in December... I don't think desperation was the issue.

    2. At least Sony doesn't stoop to those levels? No, they just sue people like Geohotz and neglect to inform customers that their information was stolen after PSN got hacked. And how do you know Sony isn't doing the same stuff? Just because they weren't caught doesn't mean they're not doing it.
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  6. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,285   +232

    It's not a whole lot different than a burger chain hiring a supermodel for advertising, or a soft drink company hiring popular actors or performers to push their products... Or even product placement in TV shows and movies... It's not like Microsoft is reinventing the wheel here, they are just using a demographic (internet "stars") that might actually have some specific appeal to their target gamer consumer.
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  7. Fair enough, but you always seem to favour posting on MS articles more than others and then do it with so much spiteful hate. Did Microsoft steal your lunch money, hmmmm? Do you have something against them?
  8. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,069   +704

    No, it's not a surprise. Most of us just call them 'commercials'.
  9. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Maniac Posts: 1,166   +241

    Let me straighten this up ok
    1. I am not a fanboy of any sort dont own any console last one I did own was 360.
    2. I only post on articles worth posting on I am not a on a postathon.
    3. Anyone who calls someone a troll is a troll, just sayin.
    3.1: I just think its bad that M$ have to pay others to make their product looks good specially when you have a better track record then sony.

    Also your telling me that sony is the only one that has sued someone like geohots? I bet hundreds of companies have been hacked and neglected to inform their customers including microsoft.

    I am sure sony are doing it better if we havent heard of them buying thumbs up on machinima or some other type of video network.

    If you bought a product because x company payed x people to say its good and it turned out bad I am guessing you would thank them right? Not saying xbox one is bad but its not good not from a gamers point of view anyway.
  10. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Addict Posts: 528   +146

    Meh, doesn't surprise me that yet another company is paying for good coverage from "celebrities". Happens all the time.
  11. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Maniac Posts: 1,166   +241

    Wouldnt call anyone from machinima celebrities...
     
  12. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Addict Posts: 528   +146

    Hence the quotes. A lazy way to get the point across :p
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  13. lipe123

    lipe123 TS Guru Posts: 435   +76

    "paying off" is a phrase used to describe bribery or something illegal, poor choice of words for a perfectly legal advertising campaign.
    Also what negative vibe? From what I understand among the lesser beings that use consoles they prefer xbox over PS3 and Sony's recent track record with hacks and law suits really left them with a nice dent to their reputation.

    MS isn't asking users to lie or make up fictional BS they are asking them to post gameplay footage.
    That means they are promoting their actual product so I don't get the hate or negative vibe from the article.

    Advertising costs money and like several other people posted, everyone pays for advertising so this is no different. If anything this is WAY cheaper at $3 for 1000 views!
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  14. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,285   +232

    To the younger gamer crowd, the Machinima guys can have have a minor rock star-ish status. At the very least, there is quite a bit of admiration and respect for them. So yah, when you look at the demographic Microsoft is after, they are a perfect example of a "celebrity" to the young gamers. It's all relative.
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  15. Adhmuz

    Adhmuz TechSpot Paladin Posts: 903   +99

    I don't know about some of you, but I see a big difference between Britney Spears promoting Pepsi, two things very unrelated, vs Machinima a gaming and media streaming website promoting a gaming console, two things very much so related. See the problem?
  16. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,285   +232

    Maybe a better analogy would be movie critics and movie promotion. Movie studios pay big money, bring in tons of "critics" to screen their movie, encourage positive reviews, and then post little comments and snippets all over their ads and posters. It's a common story in the entertainment business, with nearly identical plot lines, only the type of media involved changes.
  17. Perhaps part of the blame rests on the gaming channels themselves, would you trust them to be honest? They can always choose not to promote Xbox One if they do not feel like it. If a channel honestly sees the console as "good" then they can choose to participate in the Xbox One promotion.
  18. Adhmuz

    Adhmuz TechSpot Paladin Posts: 903   +99

    Hence why I don't believe what critics say about general media, I need to make my own choice because of that problem. Which is the same issue with Microsoft paying Machinima to promote the Xbx1, forced publicity is never good publicity, at least not in my eyes.
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  19. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Maniac Posts: 1,166   +241

    If your having to pay people to say nice things about your product then it sounds like your product has already failed, being paid to say nice things about the xbox one is not advertising its making the viewers get the wrong idea of a product thanks to microsoft paying them to say nice things and only nice things about their product.
  20. penn919

    penn919 TS Enthusiast Posts: 154   +12

    That's a perfect analogy. The difference between Britney Spears in a Pepsi ad is transparency. When people see ads on TV, they know it. However; if you are promoting a game in the guise of an objective review or demonstration then that is deception and betrayal of trust. It certainly hurts credibility.
  21. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,980   +1,488

    This is just one reason why advertising as a whole is wrong. You never know when to believe them.
  22. Benny26

    Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,575   +47

    Sad from Microsoft, but not at all surprising.
  23. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 875   +130

    From a consumer standpoint, consider advertising as just a way to tell you that a product exists. Beyond that, do your own research to get the facts and take everything in the ad with salt mine... of salt.
  24. IKROWNI

    IKROWNI TS Member Posts: 25

    When your telling the person that they are not allowed to discus the fact that they are being paid for what they are doing, that's when it becomes an issue. And also these people could know for a fact the console is a turd but since they are getting paid to say it's a great console they are misinformed the general public to make there wallets fatter. So they very well are asking these users to lie.

    If you ask these "YouTube stars" are you getting paid by Microsoft to say the console is a great item and they've been gag ordered to not divulge that info the person is forced to LIE. If you don't like the console but you get paid to say it's good your being paid to LIE. How can that not be any more obvious?

    Microsoft doesn't stop at having others lie for them either. Look at the consoles reveal. They showed millions of people games running on a pic with titan gpus at 1080p 60fps and said that this is what the owners of the console would have to look forward to. That was a LIE. Look at the games being released in 720p. What's the point that of upgrading your console to get something that looks close to the same on the previous one?

    When Microsoft and Sony came out with the last Gen consoles what made them great was the fact that the hardware inside was much more capable than the previous parts that were available at that time. This time around they are both using hardware that could be bought for a pc 5-7 years ago.

    I was devoted to Xbox for years until these new consoles came out. I realized for farcheaper I could play at 1600p over 60fps while multitasking and have infinitely more features by going with a pc. When titan fall comes out you can rest assured I will be playing it in a truly next-gen manner while the people who spent hundreds on a new console get to enjoy there games in the same level of locked down low rez manner for another 10 years.

    True next Gen is 4k and VR. Both something that neither of these new consoles will ever achieve in any manner even close to pc.

    Here go through this list and tell me on each which sounds better option 1 or option 2

    1. GDDR5 - 2.GDDR6
    1.DDR3 - 2.DDR4
    1.smaller community - 2.larger community
    1.slow processor - 2. Fast processor
    1.expensive games - 2. Cheap games
    1. Childish community - 2. Mature community
    1.rumble triggers - 2. Immersion virtual reality

    I can keep going on in this list forever but if you choose option number 1 then you are a complete fool.
  25. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,048   +75

    Sad from MS/Google and others as well who indulge in similar activities.

    But the fact is, many so called 'critics' or 'reviewers' do get offered' favors' from the big corporations in almost all sectors, not just tech industry, hence this issue keep raising its head. Ethics doesn't seems to gel too well with the business practices .... but that is just my opinion.


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