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Microsoft won't release Service Pack 2 for Windows 7

By Shawn Knight
Oct 24, 2012
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  1. Pan Wah

    Pan Wah TS Enthusiast Posts: 134   +27

    This seems reasonable, phased reduction of support for the old OS(7) when loads of folks dislike the replacement(8) = more Linux/Mac users, which is fine.:D
  2. pjamme

    pjamme TS Enthusiast Posts: 285

    It took our corp 10 years to start upgrading 15,000 from XP to W7 and will probably take that long to even think about W8. An I am certainly sticking with W7 at home until both my computers die of old age. If I wanted an apple iPAD I would buy one, not W8
  3. psycros

    psycros TS Booster Posts: 707   +214

    Hardly. About 20% of the US population can't get broadband. Just like Microsoft, the ISPs are 100% profit-driven and won't extend their service anywhere they can't make a lot of profit - note that I say a <I>lot</I>, because they could reach most unserved homes and businesses and still make a modest amount of money. Likewise, Microsoft could still be making money off nwe Windows 7 licenses if it would fully support it for another two years. I'm sorry, but five years of <b>full</b> enterprise and home support should be the absolute minimum for an operating system. Anything less shows you're not serious about being the bedrock of an IT infrastructure.

    You mentioned WSUS, and that brings up another option for Windows 7 admins and power users: WSUSoffline. Its a free package that you can run on any client machines which contains nearly all critical and even a good number of optional updates for every version of Windows from XP to Seven. I imagine they'll even support Windows 8 at some point. Note: the updater is in the root folder, but the program that actually applies the updates is in the CLIENT subfolder. <b>That</b> folder even has an autorun included, so it can be burnt to CDs or pushed out to end-users. Very handy.
  4. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 310   +62

    I don't think Microsoft is doing anything wrong here. Lets get real, the win8 campaign they have going is a giant project, and they have a lot riding on it. With the staggering amount of work they've been putting into it, it makes sense that they'd put their old projects on the back burner until win8 has a foothold in the market. I don't see this as a malicious act towards their customers, they are just acting logically to push the company into the future.
    treeski likes this.
  5. I don't upgrade to the newest and the shiniest just because It's there, I'm still running Win XP Sp3 on all but one computer that's running Win 7(I plan to upgrade them all to 7 eventually).
    I've tried Win8(NOT Impressed) and at my current rate for upgrading to new OS's It'll probably be at least 5years before I even look at Win8 again why? because XP run's just fine does what I need It to and that's good enough for me.
    As for the Win7 service pack Issue..I mean yeah It's nice to have all the updates at once but, It's not like you can't flip the auto update switch and get them, a little Inconvenient yes but not something I'd dump Microsoft over
  6. Pan Wah

    Pan Wah TS Enthusiast Posts: 134   +27

    Too right! I don't believe in upgrading just to show off - I'm still running Sinclair BASIC on both my ZX81s, because I'm a thoroughly good stick. Furthermore I'm still irritated at the obsolescence of the Babbage machine, it was still working fine when they phased it out...
  7. ReederOnTheRun said:

    "I don't think Microsoft is doing anything wrong here. Lets get real, the win8 campaign they have going is a giant project, and they have a lot riding on it. With the staggering amount of work they've been putting into it, it makes sense that they'd put their old projects on the back burner until win8 has a foothold in the market. I don't see this as a malicious act towards their customers, they are just acting logically to push the company into the future."

    Yeah, lets get real for a minute. That would be awesome. Stop distorting the truth. They didn't say Windows 7 Service Pack 2 is delayed.

    They said, "No Windows 7 Service Pack 2 will be released". Period. If you don't see this as a strong-arm tactic to coerce people into buying Windows 8 then you need to set up an appointment with a doctor who can do a cat-scan on your brain.

    They didn't have to release this information 1 week before the availability of Windows 8. They could have kept it quiet. They could have said we don't know if we are releasing Windows 7 Service Pack 2. They could have said Windows 7 Service Pack 2 is delayed until after Windows 8 is released. They said point blank what their intentions are.

    I like the way one user said it best.
    Microsoft to their customers: "You hate Windows 8? FU!!! No Service Pack 2 for you".

    Sorry Microsoft, I still ain't buying. You can keep your "New and Improved" turd to yourself.
  8. What happened to Windows 7 was my idea? Windows 8 was nobodys idea.
  9. Seriously I had to google ZX81, dude It's time to let It go, just wondering hows surfing the net with a 28 year old computer working for ya?
  10. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,940   +1,474

    From what I read, people are assuming Windows 7 SP2 will not be released when what was stated is that Microsoft was not currently working on a Service Pack 2. I'm not sure which is actually true but the two are definitely not the same.
  11. "From what I read, people are assuming Windows 7 SP2 will not be released when what was stated is that Microsoft was not currently working on a Service Pack 2. I'm not sure which is actually true but the two are definitely not the same. "

    Okay then TechSpot is pandering for web hits once again by posting completely misleading and bogus headlines.

    TechSpot headline for this article: "Microsoft won't release Service Pack 2 for Windows 7". That doesn't sound like a delay to me.

    I sure hope, for Microsofts sake, it is simply a delay. The backlash from such a move would be more than I think they want to endure. Sometimes perceptions can be worse than the reality of things. And I "perceive" Microsoft not releasing Service Pack 2 for Windows 7 as a very dumb move indeed.
     
  12. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,930   +123 Staff Member

    Well that's gonna be fun some 8 years from now:
    "Windows Update found 967 updates, estimated download time:

    And before you bash TS more for the headline here is another quote from the first part of The Inq's article:
  13. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 844   +218

    Regardless of what their true intentions are with this decision, it definitely feels like a push on their part for Windows 8.
  14. Already started using linux with wine awesome. **** ms
  15. Geforcepat

    Geforcepat TS Rookie Posts: 67   +6

    Lol at the comments. it's been clear since Feb 09 that win 7 would not have multiple service packs.if not then then last summer when they first talked about and showed win 8.you didn't
    hear them saying we will continue to support win 7 with service packs.it's been pretty clear for a year now that it's all hands on deck for win 8& it's successor not a service pack 2 for win 7.
  16. nigel

    nigel TS Rookie Posts: 24

    Microsoft have a duty of care and it appears that they do not want to do it. An advantage of a Service Pack is that it makes most hot fixes available to users.

    One has to assume that either Microsoft is financially stretched or does not believe it has the ability to issue a service pack that fixes the number of defects that exist in WIndows 7!
  17. rob67

    rob67 TS Rookie

    Ok microsoft I was considering moving up from vista to 7 but now im going to give linux mint a try instead
    dual boot system to start with. I consider just one service pack as blackmail from ms I dont do blackmail.
  18. Pacman -Syu => with just that one simple line I can update my entire system in a matter of minutes using arch linux or an arch variation such as archbang or cinnarch. rest in pieces M$!
  19. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    Every now and then I do a new Win7 install.wim (that includes all the updates since SP1) by installing it to a spare partition and going to audit mode..
  20. TJGeezer

    TJGeezer TS Enthusiast Posts: 385   +10

    I do a lot more than browse and do email use a tablet only for maps in the car and one of the free Android astronomy programs for when the night sky is clear here in Baja California. Everything else, I do on my desktop with a large monitor and no touchscreen. Got Android already, so a tablet OS loses me.
    If MS drops Win7 support I'll just be double glad I keep a Linux Mint dual boot up to date. At least Mint has the sense to make a full menu system available. Linux really is a viable alternative now, not the hassle it used to be. Users no longer require what some wag described as an inborn need to hand-edit configuration files.
  21. Windows 7 is just Vista SP3 anyway, it doesn't really need another service pack.
  22. avoidz

    avoidz TS Maniac Posts: 454   +54

    Pretty stupid decision by Microsoft. Are they that scared of creating another XP (I.e. a very successful and well-liked OS) that they are willing to kill support for Windows 7?
  23. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    wow really you need to look up your facts man Windows 7 Was rebuilt from the ground up vista SP3 it is not.
  24. Pan Wah

    Pan Wah TS Enthusiast Posts: 134   +27

    Exactly - I nearly growled at that one, but suspected a deliberate send-up? :)
    klepto12 likes this.
  25. Well, I've been holding off a looong time. But I think it's time to take the Linux Plunge. MS has pissed me off for the last time!


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