Microsoft's Windows 10 preview build arrives with a huge number of new features

Yeah, 10 has no problems except updates break user defined wifi hotspots, I.e., hostednetwork, updates overwrite customized entries in the registry that break things like caller id and multiple instances of the same drive showing up in explorer, updates switch your default Browser to Edge and then asks you if you really, really, really, really want to use something other than Edge when you switch your default browser back to what it was, one update caused many computers to continuously reboot even though you specifically chose shutdown from the power menu, one update broke automatic hibernation and instead put the computer to sleep, one update produced a completely black screen except for the mouse cursor and made my computer totally useless, a colleague of mine has had multiple different updates that made his computer unusable for several days while he tried to figure out what had went wrong. But heck, who needs to use their computer anyway? M$ knows better how to use it for us!

If the update does not break ANYTHING, I might go to it, but I do image backups, and if it breaks anything, my image backup will be gainfully employed.
they fixed the "default apps" now (the Edge thing was a bug) and you also won't see the apps you unistalled being installed again.
and for the love of god stop complaining about bugs when using insider builds. just stay on the slow ring, report the bugs and hope that you'll see a fix for it in future builds.
for your knowledge, I've literally installed windows 10 on tens of PCs and none of them had any bugs when upgrading with the exception of maybe one which had a broken HDD and the boot was corrupted.
it's one of the most stable OSes MS ever released.

I have no idea what you have been doing with your PC, but with it breaking so much I'm starting to think that it's not the OS at fault.
Where in my post did you see I stated that I was using an insider build?? Did you even read it, or do you just post at your slightest whim because you think you have all the answers?

sarcasm Oh, I know. It was YOU who updated my PC. /sarcasm

10 was mainstream in August of last year. Everything I complained about has happened in updates AFTER that date. I am not an insider, and I do not get insider builds. If this was in insider build that broke my PC, then M$ put it in the normal consumer channels for updates. They ****ed up, not I.

Stable my ***. If this is what you call stability, I would hate to experience an OS that you think is unstable. 8.1 updates never broke hostednework with every update, did not overwrite custom registry entries, did not black screen a PC so that it was useless, did not require hours of debugging after an update. And the thing with Edge a bug? Are you f'ing kidding me when M$ is trying to foist their crap on everyone? What the F are you, a M$ shill? In my eyes, you don't know what you are talking about. So don't bother to reply to my posts in the future.

I've posted my comments through the feedback app because what I and others have experienced just should not happen on a PRODUCTION channel. As I see it, and I posted this in my feedback comments, M$ has reverted to the days of NT and Win 3.1 when updates were virtually guaranteed to break something, and even make computers installing updates unusable. And, of note, go into that feedback app and search for "updates break" and you will find many others complaining about the very same thing.

Try putting a WiFi hosted network on a PC you intend to update, then update and see what happens. It will break. It really does not make any difference that you've updated 10's of PCs and none of this has happened to you. Why? Because even in those 10's of PCs, I bet that there are few, if any, that match the configuration of my PCs. Everything that I have complained about has happened to others, too. Search for it on the net or in the feedback app, you will find the complaints. And I have two PCs that I have updated that are nearly identical, and the problems happen on one, but not the other.

Just because it is not happening to you does not mean that it is not happening to others.
 
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in general you don't need to use it unless you maybe absolutely need save on battery life, something which Edge does well.
Ok I get that W10 is awesome, I really do and I love it. But don't try to sell Edge, that won't swing!

You really should give it another go. It just works now. I've swapped from IE (long ago!) to FireFox to Chrome and now I'm back on Edge as it does everything I need and nothing I don't. It supports Adblock now so I'm happy. If you use a specific plugin it doesn't support then ignore it, but otherwise I cant really think of any reason not to use it. The favourites bar which I always use is a little clunky but once its set up everything is good and favourites all sync nicely between my various desktops, laptops and surfaces!
 
You really should give it another go. It just works now. I've swapped from IE (long ago!) to FireFox to Chrome and now I'm back on Edge as it does everything I need and nothing I don't. It supports Adblock now so I'm happy. If you use a specific plugin it doesn't support then ignore it, but otherwise I cant really think of any reason not to use it. The favourites bar which I always use is a little clunky but once its set up everything is good and favourites all sync nicely between my various desktops, laptops and surfaces!
I might in time, I'm using Firefox at home and Chrome at work, IE in specific tasks but Edge still doesn't convince me for some reason.
 
Anyone who knows even a little about IT should know that turning a setting to "off" doesn't always mean "off". Who can trust M$'s "off" setting?
I agree... that's why you actually have to Google to do it properly :)

Try it, you might be pleasantly surprised...
 
I might in time, I'm using Firefox at home and Chrome at work, IE in specific tasks but Edge still doesn't convince me for some reason.
I stopped using Firefox for regular browsing. The page loading is fine so is memory usage, but the UI is too slow for me. They especially really need to improve the "awesomebar".
For example in Chrome if I write something and press enter while it's still loading it will do what I told it, but firefox just drops inputs or does not load the autocompleted website address. If I press Y+enter too fast it just web searches for Y instead of loading youtube :D
 
Last update I did made Edge, the Store & few other's disappear from the 'All Apps' list, now when I open them by the Search bar, it doesn't list it on the bottom task bar, so when I minimize those programs, it's gone, and ALT + TAB or WIN + TAB won't show it either. Apart from this, WIndows 10 has been great for 12 months.
 
Oh God, those Win 10 tiles , just the whole look makes me ill lol. I tried and tried to like it but the more I used it the more I hated it and I hear a lot of the same from others.

If it was really easy to get rid of 90% of what it comes with it would be so much better , nearly everything it has I have absolutely zero interest in & of course MS makes it much harder to remove stuff than necessary.

When I came across all the stuff MS was really collecting on users from Wilders security forums (not what MS tells you they collect) regarding the privacy issues I was outraged , most have no clue whatsoever. It's much much worse than people think .

And no, you cannot turn it all off , if you think everything's disabled I could assure you it's not.
 
Folders in tiles ... so much advancement, too much wow.
Reading that while glancing at your Avatar was quite humorous.
I agree... that's why you actually have to Google to do it properly
Sadly that is not a solution, because you can't expect everyone to follow such advice. Microsoft is in the wrong here. And you need to stop standing up for Microsoft and stand up for those you represent in the IT field. Or do you honestly not care about anyone else?
 
Last update I did made Edge, the Store & few other's disappear from the 'All Apps' list, now when I open them by the Search bar, it doesn't list it on the bottom task bar, so when I minimize those programs, it's gone, and ALT + TAB or WIN + TAB won't show it either. Apart from this, WIndows 10 has been great for 12 months.

Still happily using Win 8 with none of those issues.
 
in general you don't need to use it unless you maybe absolutely need save on battery life, something which Edge does well.
Ok I get that W10 is awesome, I really do and I love it. But don't try to sell Edge, that won't swing!

You really should give it another go. It just works now. I've swapped from IE (long ago!) to FireFox to Chrome and now I'm back on Edge as it does everything I need and nothing I don't. It supports Adblock now so I'm happy. If you use a specific plugin it doesn't support then ignore it, but otherwise I cant really think of any reason not to use it. The favourites bar which I always use is a little clunky but once its set up everything is good and favourites all sync nicely between my various desktops, laptops and surfaces!

Had those functions on Chrome for years now. Still not seeing a need for Edge at all.
 
Sadly that is not a solution, because you can't expect everyone to follow such advice. Microsoft is in the wrong here. And you need to stop standing up for Microsoft and stand up for those you represent in the IT field. Or do you honestly not care about anyone else?
I'm not commenting on whether MS is in the "right" or "wrong".... I'm just tired of people whining about how terrible Windows is and not trying to actually figure out how to deal with the issues... Whether or not you like Windows 10, it's here to stay, and it will become pretty much the only viable non-Apple option for desktops... so time to stop complaining and start coping with what we have :)
 
Not really. I have Win 8 with a free upgrade to Win 10 any time I like, but I do NOT like Win 10. I'm staying with 8.
And when MS stops supporting Windows 8 - and they will - you will have no choice but to get Windows 10.... And you'll probably be smacking yourself for not taking the free update as you shell out cash for Win 10...

But hey, your decision...
 
And when MS stops supporting Windows 8 - and they will - you will have no choice but to get Windows 10.... And you'll probably be smacking yourself for not taking the free update as you shell out cash for Win 10...

But hey, your decision...

Not true. For one, it's going to be a long time before they drop support. For another, I could care less anyway, as I can still use it, it just won't get support and I don't really benefit from their support, regardless (I have NEVER called MS for anything aside from registration). For yet another, I can jump ship at any time by then anyway to another OS that isn't Windows. It's not the only game in town and there's very little incentive for me to bother with it past a few programs. At that point, I'll likely be going to Chromebooks, as I already have one and it's the most used laptop in the house, aside from gaming, which is going to be changing in the coming years.
 
was there a problem you encountered? in general windows 8 is kinda dead now.

It may be dead for some, but it's the best Windows OS I've used so far. Better memory management, horrible UI, but still better than Win 10. Win 10 is Win 8, but in a menu, rather than having to have to use two separate UI's. Simple things like changing screen resolution are now buried in Win 10 for no good reason, and it simply isn't running any more bug-free than any other Windows prior to Win 7. I troubleshoot this mess every day and I've been around long before DOS, so it's experience, both in time and hands on.
 
This is the best Windows OS I've ever used. @Badelhas Yes its boot, reboot time is very low. It starts in 4-5 seconds after logged in.

Moreover its display settings to increase the size of fonts is very good. For general users It increases the readability of the small text.
 
This is the best Windows OS I've ever used. @Badelhas Yes its boot, reboot time is very low. It starts in 4-5 seconds after logged in.

Moreover its display settings to increase the size of fonts is very good. For general users It increases the readability of the small text.

That also is a function of many other factors, but it's likely just a better OS for your setup. Win 8 for me starts around that time.
 
It may be dead for some, but it's the best Windows OS I've used so far. Better memory management, horrible UI, but still better than Win 10. Win 10 is Win 8, but in a menu, rather than having to have to use two separate UI's. Simple things like changing screen resolution are now buried in Win 10 for no good reason, and it simply isn't running any more bug-free than any other Windows prior to Win 7. I troubleshoot this mess every day and I've been around long before DOS, so it's experience, both in time and hands on.
are you on some shrooms or something? changing resolution is literally just 3 simple clicks. if that's your biggest problem then I kinda feel sorry for you dude.
you could have at least said a few real reasons. and no, bugs are not a reason since the majority of people have less bugs on win 10 (especially BSOD types).
 
Not true. For one, it's going to be a long time before they drop support. For another, I could care less anyway, as I can still use it, it just won't get support and I don't really benefit from their support, regardless (I have NEVER called MS for anything aside from registration). For yet another, I can jump ship at any time by then anyway to another OS that isn't Windows. It's not the only game in town and there's very little incentive for me to bother with it past a few programs. At that point, I'll likely be going to Chromebooks, as I already have one and it's the most used laptop in the house, aside from gaming, which is going to be changing in the coming years.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

Windows 8 mainstream support ends in one year my poor friend.... add 5 more years of extended support, which doesn't mean any actual bug fixes or anything, and that doesn't really give you that much of a "long time". While Windows 10 support technically ends slightly less than 3 years later, remember that MS has said that Windows 10 is the "last Windows" kind of like OS 10, meaning that it will be supported as long as MS remains a company...

As for "jumping ship to any OS that isn't Windows"... really?!?!? Chromebooks are not really a viable alternative, and unless you're going Apple or Linux, Windows is the only game in town.
 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

Windows 8 mainstream support ends in one year my poor friend.... add 5 more years of extended support, which doesn't mean any actual bug fixes or anything, and that doesn't really give you that much of a "long time". While Windows 10 support technically ends slightly less than 3 years later, remember that MS has said that Windows 10 is the "last Windows" kind of like OS 10, meaning that it will be supported as long as MS remains a company...

As for "jumping ship to any OS that isn't Windows"... really?!?!? Chromebooks are not really a viable alternative, and unless you're going Apple or Linux, Windows is the only game in town.

...and you know what all that means? I don't use Windows support for my OS at all, save updates I never wanted. So the point is when the support ends, nothing changes except that I no longer have to wonder why something in the OS suddenly changed due to an update I never wanted in the first place. As for your opinion of other OS's, that's simply all it is...your opinion.
 
are you on some shrooms or something? changing resolution is literally just 3 simple clicks. if that's your biggest problem then I kinda feel sorry for you dude.
you could have at least said a few real reasons. and no, bugs are not a reason since the majority of people have less bugs on win 10 (especially BSOD types).

Prove it's 3 clicks.
 
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