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Mobo upgrade

By Zeromus
Mar 7, 2007
  1. Mobo upgrade, I'm so miserable

    I currently have a Dell Dimension 3000 and I realize it sucks nutz. No AGP or nothin, just PCI. 1 year ago I knew nothing of graphics cards and I used my Christmas money to buy a Graphics card. The problem was that I bought an NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GPU based Graphics card and went home finding out that I needed a PCI-express slot. So I returned it the next day and asked the Best Buy dude to give me that best PCI Bus based Graphics card, I got a crappy GeForce 6200. So now I'm know a bunch about Graphics cards and there slots and thinking of upgrading my motherboard. But I don't think there's a mobo that could fit the case. Bottom line:
    Can I upgrade?
    If I can, what's the best to upgrade?

    Specs:
    WinXP home
    512 physical ram
    Intel Pentium 4 2.79Ghz
    256mb nvidia geforce 6200 gpu graphics card
    35 GB HDD

    Thanks
     
  2. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    There's currently a similar thread up on upgrading computers...

    Your case is slightly different tho, but there's a good list of 478 mobos with PCIe x16.

    The thread is here...
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?p=410960#post410960

    ... but the mobo that was recommended by vnf4ultra is here:
    http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=BA23565

    The GeForce 7300 is considered a pretty low end card, so the other issues discussed probably would not be a problem for you.

    It'd help if you'd list the specs in your computer at the moment. The specs I can dig from google shows that a good RAM upgrade is desperately needed. 256mb is just not adequate today.
     
  3. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    WinXP home
    512 physical ram
    Intel Pentium 4 2.79Ghz
    256mb nvidia geforce 6200 gpu graphics card
    35 GB HDD

    Hmm, so that's why the Geforce 6200 hundred was 150$ and the Geforce 7300 was 98$. I found it strange it that it was more expensive.

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  4. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    The Geforce 6200 is a LOWER end card compared to the 7300. However, the higher price is probably due to the interface, the 6200 is probably a PCI cards, while the 7300 is a PCIe (notice the "e" is missing).

    Anyway, 512 RAM is quite minimal, an upgrade to 1.5Gb (getting an extra 1gb) should improve performance considerably. A RAM upgrade usually is the most value for money upgrade...
     
  5. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    So your saying I should upgrade RAM, not the GC. The GC is perfectly fine right?

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  6. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    uhm.... if you've already bought a 7300gt, its a waste of money if you don't use it.

    I'm going to be frank by saying that I don't usually deal with such low end stuff. Its going to take a few comparisons to actually determine which upgrade would be more value for money. The graphics cards might give you better performance while gaming, but if you don't do much of that, then the RAM upgrade is a much better option.

    But if you don't play games, I don't see why you needed to upgrade your 7300gt :D

    And if you didn't need to upgrade it, I don't see why you bought it... o.O

    I'm confusing myself now... Ignore me :D
     
  7. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    Well, I'm trying to develop 3D applications that have advance architectural drawing that my GC doesn't support. I really need a GC upgrade to do this. But I play games occasionally. :) I also thought upgrading the ram would increase the fps in some applications...

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  8. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    Whoa.... a computer for work!??!? Can it do work?!??

    :D

    In that case, yes, a GC upgrade definately is needed. A RAM upgrade will improve the general performance of your PC, so yeh... Its recommended.
     
  9. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    Anyways, any links to stores and such that has mobo's that can fit in my case?
     
  10. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    Mobos which can support your processor AND has PCIe is quite rare. And most of them are micro-ATX size, so it should fit most cases, assuming there's holes for them. My first post has that motherboard you can use.

    I don't really have information about your case, and since its a Dell, they might have manufactured it specifically for your current motherboard, and other motherboard may not fit. There's no way I can verify any other motherboard will fit in that case, so you'll have to hope someone else will help you here...
     
  11. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    Looks I'll have to get that job at sweet bay and buy me a Dell XPS 710 h2c computer, It's been been on my wish list for quite some time now...

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  12. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    hrm... I personally don't like large computer companies (Dell, compaq, emachines, etc). Builing them myself give me more satisfaction, plus its cheaper.

    However, buying form Dell gives you less headache, you get the aftersales support, and besides, the XPS range is supposed to be pretty good (though pricey).

    And that particular model.... WOW. I dug up the specs, the first thing I saw was a 1kW PSU. I didn't really bother to check anything else, this rig is going to outperform anything I've ever owned :D

    Hell, itd outperform everything I've ever used put together :D


    You gotta be kidding me that you can afford such an upgrade, yet bought yourself a 7300gt...
     
  13. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    Actually I returned for 6200. Plus if I work 5 days a week, I can pay it off.

    You might check out the other specks cause almost everything in that computer is overclocked thanks to the special cooler that dell built; and an overclocked Dual Geforce 8800 GTX in SLI mode, thats probably playstation3 by 50 fold. I can dream... :D


    Whoh what!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????? Cheaper!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? No way, I don't believe anything like that! The h2c parts built together is 10,000$ itself. I had a chat with an XPS specialist online.

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  14. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    I didn't need to see the exact specs, the 1kW PSU from Dell would say that its going to be a killer system.

    But I took a peek anyway :D

    PSUs are the most overlooked component in a computer, so for them to put such a high end PSU into a computer means they probably have higher-than-high end components in there. The everything-is-overclocked, bleeding edge gear in it just confirms the whole thing.

    I don't know what kind of work you do, but if that system doesn't perform well enough for a year or so, you probably are looking for computer advice from the wrong forum.... :D:D:D
     
  15. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Topic Starter Posts: 224   +7

    I don't understand how you can be so happy about such an expensive computer that you DONT have, but you can't me though cause I don't have one either. But for now, a mobo just to handle maybe a 7950 GT would be really nice :D
    Hey, if I had that computer, I'd probably have ceremony with people I don't even know just to rub it there faces! The specs of that particular computer are such high performing parts that you could have a PS3 emulator on it.

    Edited by Moderator: Removed quote. There`s no need to quote the post directly above your own. ;)
     
  16. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    I suppose its cos I don't know Dell actually would configure such a high end system. I can't imagine there would be a market for it....

    I'd assume that its the same for a car enthusiast to suddenly find out that some crappy car maker suddenly produced a car that'll rival a Bugatti Veyron or McLaren F1.... I suppose its not really out of the blue, Dell has been configuring their XPS systems for sometime....

    And yes, chances are, configuring a system yourself would be cheaper than buying from Dell. 10k for a system.... it'd better come with a 30" screen....
     
  17. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,000   +15

    PCI-E boards in general are now cheaper than AGP.
     
  18. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,039   +9

    yeah, that too, although the AGP board mentioned there doesn't look all that expensive...
     
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