Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich steps down following same-sex marriage uproar

By Shawn Knight
Apr 3, 2014
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  1. Mozilla on Thursday announced that co-founder Brendan Eich has elected to step down from his post as CEO following the recent controversy surrounding his appointment.

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  2. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Booster Posts: 777   +137

    See? So much for diversity of opinion.

    As long as you have the right views, that is.
  3. RustyTech

    RustyTech TS Guru Posts: 814   +382

    *ughh* it's going to be a pain uninstalling Firefox.
    But what can you do? This company is now hypocritical - proclaiming diversity of opinion but ONLY if you have the right views.
    psycros, wildrage, Timonius and 3 others like this.
  4. gamoniac

    gamoniac TS Addict Posts: 292   +68

    Intolerable view against someone that has different opinions is in and of itself against the democratic foundation of our system.

    While I disagree with Brendan Eich's take on prop 8, I don't see a point of boycotting a product base on an employee's view (CEO or janitor). Mozilla is a product of many people's hard work. Besides, per current US laws, he is entitled to his view and gets to vote yes/no like everyone else.
  5. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,373   +310

    I wanna see his CV after this "CEO of mozilla for 14days" xD
  6. No tolerance for intolerance.
  7. OliTheG

    OliTheG TS Member Posts: 61   +27

    So a man just got bullied and threatened out of his job based on his beliefs.

    Rejoice! We have protected the right to freedom of speech and religion, and furthered the good cause of everybody must share the same opinion or have your life threatened!

    And entirely to somebody who didn't have the right opinion 6 years ago, which makes it all justifiable! HAZAH!

  8. "No tolerance in intolerance."

    That is easily the best way to view this. People are getting upset because they think Mozilla is being hypocritcal and not allowing differeing views, but intolerance should not be seen as acceptable this day and age. I find it very striking at how many people get upset over this issue. Those intolerant of homosexual marriage are on the wrong side of history.
    rub900 likes this.
  9. TekGun

    TekGun TS Booster Posts: 156   +17

    Well I'm sure he'll be adding the fact he was a co-founder of Mozilla and probably will mention he created JavaScript, I'm sure he has a few others he could add to his CV... not that he needs one.
    An_Old_Girl and ThanosPAS like this.
  10. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TS Guru Posts: 860   +307

    What total crap. Equality, only if you think like us. Whatever happened to “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
    psycros, bea108, Timonius and 5 others like this.
  11. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,550   +594

    Of course he's entitled to his view. But he didn't just "vote" yes or no, he contributed money to a specific agenda reflecting intolerance. And as a CEO of a multi-million dollar VERY public company, no one is going to take you seriously if you're saying one thing but doing another.

    A very dumb move on his part and now he's paying the price.
  12. scarlett_feverr

    scarlett_feverr TS Rookie

    You know, it would be one thing if it *were* just "personal opinions." I have worked with people like that. I think everybody has (unfortunately). But it moves from "personal opinion" to "actively participating in medieval discrimination and bullshit" when we're handing out $1k (and that's just what we know about) to groups that amount to hate groups. Sorry, no dice.

    I would assume that half the board wouldn't have left if it was really a non-issue and had zero effect on anything...or else they left on principle, which is important too. As Jon Stewart famously said, “If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not values: they're hobbies.”
  13. "Those intolerant of homosexual marriage are on the wrong side of history."

    Homosexuality is not new. There may have been countless hedonist homosexual loving civilizations in ancient history. They just aren't around anymore. Why would you assume your progressive morality is more correct than my conservative views. Maybe you are not progressive enough and need to join NAMBLA
    psycros likes this.
  14. He can say whatever he wants to, that's his right. But when you say/do something that supports the limiting of rights of a specific group of people (racism, homophobia, etc.) when you are the CEO of a large company, you WILL be pressured to step down.

    If I was the leader of a company, I could make a racist remark, but I wouldn't expect to keep my job.
  15. No ontic referent, no problem. Oh, the irony.
  16. Mike Steele

    Mike Steele TS Enthusiast Posts: 37   +6

    You can say and do what ever you want, but there's nothing protecting you from your actions. would have been nice to see what he could have done before judging him.
  17. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,285   +238

    Not surprised by this at all... And for everyone that is complaining that he has a right to "free speech" and his own opinions... You are correct, we all have that. However, big companies/business are just like politics - your past will haunt you, so make wise choices. You can say whatever you want, but when you go under the microscope at the top of the food chain, every flaw will be a weapon to flog you with. If you want to see this spelled out in extremis, just take a look at how much fun it is when presidents nominate justices and other high level members of government, and how they get raked over the coals on every little detail by Congress before they are accepted (or rejected).

    In other words... You have freedom of speech. You have a right to your opinions. You can support whatever you feel is appropriate for you. UNLESS you plan on being in politics or running a big company, in which case you are held to a higher standard, and better not have any speech, opinions, or support actions that are exclusionary or controversial. Welcome to the world of double-standards! Wheeeeee!
  18. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TS Guru Posts: 860   +307

    But he didn't make a racist remark as you insinuate, he donated his own money privately to support California Proposition 8, which was voted into law on Nov 8, 2008, but found unconstitutional on June 26, 2013. Last time I checked, this is the working of a democracy. Prop 8 also had the support of Senator John McCain, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former Governor Mitt Romney. I could list more. All they all to lose their job and be pilloried?
    psycros and pirate78 like this.
  19. Interesting opinion. But as the new CEO has he mentioned pushing his company towards a better, gay-free tomorrow? Or is he planning to use company money to fund anti-gay movements? If the answer is no than his personal views don't mean anything to his position as CEO.
    drjekel_mrhyde and Raoul Duke like this.
  20. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TS Guru Posts: 860   +307

    A quick check also reveals that on a 79%+ voter turnout 52% of the California voters endorsed Proposition 8. Does this mean we need to send them to re-education camps so they do not keep their intolerant views. Do we take away their kids Ken and Barbie dolls and buy them Ken and Bob dolls to make sure their kids aren't tainted by their parents views. Maybe Federal dollars should be spent on an advertising campaign to teach these intolerant Californians
    psycros and drjekel_mrhyde like this.
  21. For those that just don't get it... how about this:

    "I support child porn. I do not watch it or produce it, I only support it."

    I want to be your boss. Will you work for me?
  22. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TS Guru Posts: 860   +307

    Child pornography is illegal. Making a legitimate private donation to fund a side of the political process that he supports is in no way comparable. If the man breaks employment, labour laws I would be the first to call for his head. What has happened though is someone leaked a entirely legitimate and within the political process donation to the press and relied on it to cahier him. These are dirty tricks and unworthy of anyone. If you disagree with the supporters of Prop 8, donate your own money or get out on the armchair and work within the democratic process to ensure it stays defeated.
    I really think that you are the one that 'does not get it'. This was not some shady, underhanded deal, using company funds to an illegal organization outside the mainstream. This was a piece of government legislation that Californian's voted for, only to be challenged and overturned by a Federal court.
  23. Scshadow

    Scshadow TS Guru Posts: 467   +97

    Yeah, child porn is totally the same thing as trying to protect your belief in the sanctity of marriage. When he is advocating for concentration camps for known homosexuals. k. Til then I would not compare it to child porn.
    psycros likes this.
  24. To Raoul Duke, illegal is only a term of which society has give an action which is deemed negative enough to the masses to make it such. Just because it isn't illegal AT THIS MOMENT doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal (as a hate crime) or doesn't mean it SHOULD be legal. Think bigger.
  25. George Takei's take: "And a quick civics primer: Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. This man donated money to a campaign designed to keep LGBT people from full equality and to deny our families equal rights under the law. He was free to make that choice, but we are free to hold him accountable. If he'd donated money to White Supremacists to help outlaw interracial marriage, there'd be little outcry over his ouster."
    guyver1 likes this.

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