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NeoWin shut down

By olefarte
Aug 9, 2003
  1. Apparently a disgruntled 13 year old has caused the owner of NeoWin.net, to shut his site down, because of repeated DoS attacks. The owner of the site has apparently shut down maybe for good. Here's his statement posted at Warp2Search and also a statement from his attacker. Hope he gets things straightened out, it was a good site.
    Edit; On the "statement", the link doesn't open right. After opening, page down about five posts to see it.
    Edit again; Well, sometimes it opens dead on the spot, go figure.
     
  2. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,871

    Looks like that kid has p***ed off a lot of people. Not to mention he's probably bought himself a lot of legal troubles.
     
  3. olefarte

    olefarte TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,427

    Looks like he thinks he's above it all and no one can find him.
    I bet he can be found.
     
  4. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 418

    Tis a sad sad world...
     
  5. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 6,590   +351

    I haven't been able to access Neowin since yesterday mid-afternoon, it's a damn shame authorities haven't been able to track this kid, too bad for a great resource like Neo.
     
  6. olefarte

    olefarte TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,427

    Same here, but I've been to some other sites lately that have been down for a short time and I thought it was just one of those normal day to day problems. If I read all that right, that kids been hitting some other sites also. Might all be related.
     
  7. olefarte

    olefarte TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,427

    It really looks like this kid is bragging at a lot of different sites about what he has done, he's proud of himself. He's even saying if NeoWin comes back online, he'll do it again. This might not be over for a while. I didn't catch what po'd him off, but he sure holds a grudge.
     
  8. olefarte

    olefarte TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,427

    Well, I see NeoWin is back up again. No comment on the front page about all this that I could find. I guess it's best to let sleeping dogs lie. Hope they stay asleep.
     
  9. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,745

    That is a shame how people like this think they are god. Unfortunately for them they think they are invisible, and they will be caught one day and pay some serious reprocussions. I hope they get this kid soon.
     
  10. olefarte

    olefarte TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,427

    From what I'm seeing at various places, the kid may have seen his reign of terror come to an end. At his site is a message saying, please stop bothering him, he's put an end to it. At another site there is a post from him, well supposedly, saying that he's going to be off the air for a couple of days talking to lawyers.

    If all the info on him I've seen is true, his address, phone number, name and anything else you ever wanted to know about him can be found posted. I'm not going to post it here, but it's around for the finding. Evidently people have even called his mother and she doesn't believe it.

    What could this kid do if he would put all this knowledge to good use. At any rate NeoWin's site is still up. Hope it's all over with.
     
  11. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,896

    it is simply absurd that parents allow their kiddies unrestricted and unsupervised access to the internet. Neowin should pursue this. even though nothing really serious would come of it regarding this attack. it would put mom on notice and SHE would have no excuse the next time and SHE would be the one facing prosecution and or civil litigation for junior's activities.

    it is past time for examples to be made of some of the little script kiidies and their overindulgent parents. first should be a warning putting the parents on notice. any further problems should result in the parents being prosecuted and or sued.
     
     
  12. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,871

    ISS, that is no solution. Many kids tend to not care if their parents go down for their actions. I have seen many references to this kind of attitude. At least one such reference can be found somewhere in these forums unless it has been deleted. I don't remember the exact thread and am too lazy to look it up but it was in reference to uncapping a connection. The person in reference was concerned whether or not he would get into trouble, but was ok if his parents got fined/jailed.
     
  13. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,745

    Yes I remember that. It is quite a shame that people feel that way.
     
  14. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,896

    That is why the Parents should receive official notice and a warning FIRST. if the problem continues then they SHOULD be the ones to get prosecuted or sued. they have all they need to resolve the problem and that is banning little johnny from the computer altogether. and if they cant secure their compouter enough to keep their kids off of it then they need to get rid of it.


    there is NO difference between initiatind a denial of service attack against a web site that relies on visitors for income and blockading a store to prevent customers from coming in and it should be treated as such.
     
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