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By HIM_Valo
Oct 1, 2005
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  1. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Ok well i got everything up and running. There are a few things that bug me though, for one the cpu says it runs at 1ghz FSB but the utility ASUS provides says it running at 800FSB, clock speed is okay tho @2.2ghz.

    Another is that I wanted to upgrade my drivers to the newest ones, ie. chipset drivers and BIOS. Well when you look at the BIOS file it says update chipset drivers to 6.65 or later to avoid crashes. Then when you goto the Chipset drivers it says update BIOS to 1006 before chipset. Then when you goto 1006 it says update chipset to 6.65 to avoid crasehs. ??? im confused I dont know what to update first? help please.
  2. Merc14

    Merc14 TS Rookie Posts: 464

    Congrats on getting everything up and running on the first try! That's great. As far as the BIOS /chipset conundrum, update the chipset driver first then update the BIOS. Also, on the front page of this site there is a report about a Windows XP SP2 bug and X2 CPU's. CHeck it out at http://www.techspot.com/news/19000-xp-sp2-athlon-x2-performance-bug.html

    As far as the FSB reading at 800, mine reads the same in the Asus AI utility (one of the reasons I don't use it). Asus AI seems to read OK as long as you have it set as the overclocker. When you set the jumperfree in BIOS to manual then AI seems to start reading wrong and tries to take over the CPU settings. My advice, uninstall it.

    Also, remember that yoru system doesn't really have a FSB in the conventional term since the memory (RAM) is addressed directly from the CPU by its onboard memory controller throuh a HyperTransport link (HT). This is why you can get 1000MHZ and faster "bus" speeds. Intel addresses memory through a conventional bus. Read here for more http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_2252_2353,00.html

    Anyways, you get your "FSB" speed by multiplying your HT speed (set in BIOS under CPU I believe) by your CPU speed (set in Jumperfree settings in BIOS). As an example, my HT is set at 5x and CPU freq is 218 which gives me a FSB speed of 1090MHZ. My CPU speed is 218 with an 11x multiplier (set in jumperfree in BIOS) which gives me a CPU speed of 2398 MHZ or just about 2.4GHZ. So my system is running at 2.4GHZ with a 1090mhz FSB (even though I don't have a FSB LOL) as comparison to an Intel CPU.

    As I said, I'd uninstall Asus AI and set your CPU and HT, as well as Vcore and RAM (voltage that is fed to the CPU,) to auto for now. After you get everything loaded and things are running smoothly and the OS and drivers are updated then set everything manually. Also, disable Asus Cool & quiet.

    The following is all free stuff that will prove invaluable. Go to http://www.cpuid.com and download CPUz. It is a great utility that concisely reports all the CPU and RAM timings as well as BIOS info etc. Then go to http://www.lavalys.com/ and download Everest Home as it gives all kinds of info on system settings and timings as well as some litle benchmarks programs. Then go to http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html and download Belarc Advisor. It spits out every little OS upgrade and license number on your PC.
  3. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    cool. good for you. I have basically the same setup, except i have an A8N SLI Deluxe mobo. I have had no problems with it so far.

    I followed the link to the article to read about the problem with X2 processors and SP2. I purchased my system from Alienware, do you think they would have added the fix already? :confused:
  4. Merc14

    Merc14 TS Rookie Posts: 464

    I think this is just now popping up so I doubt Alienware even knew about the problem.
  5. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    well at the moment everything seems to be fine... will monitor it...
  6. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Hmm well I havent noticed any decrease in performence, I bought XP Pro w/ SP2 and I havent noticed anything.

    As for the motherboard drivers I got them all set up now.

    Thanks Merc14 for the nice post. I found it very usefull. I uninstalled the ASUS Ai and thanks to your nice FSB explaination I understand now :).

    Thank you all for helping make this build. Now I can play FFXI MAX!!! lol.
  7. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Okay I have this really annoying problem, when I try and run Windows Update says I have to validate my OS. Well when I goto do this, it has to install an active x control, at first it poped up and said IE has blocked it.

    So I went into the security settings and enabled all active x settings. Now IE dosent pop up and say it blocked it. Now here is the part that sucks, I dont use windows firewall so its OFF, but when I goto click on the active x control now a pop up comes that says it wont let it go through because its not signed, and I cant figure any way around it. Its really pissing me off.

    Well I put my old HDD a Western Digital 80GB in my new computer to transpher some old files, well when I try to get to the My Documents folder it says "access denied" >.> My old My Documents folder has all my music and everything I need that folder, anyone know how I can get to it? Path Im trying to get to C:\documents and settings\shaun-bam\my documents it keeps telling me access denied.

    Thanks in advance.
  8. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    IE?! unless you're updating windows do yourself a favor and use firefox. graphical advantages aside, firefox leads to far less malicious code getting on your machine. and make sure you are protected (avg and sygate are my favs)

    the problem you have is because of certain folder permissions that are unique to the 'my documents' folder. i've had to get around that on several occasions, but can't recall exactly how. check out soem olde threads on these boards, you should find a way alright.

    is your copy of windows activated? i trust it is legal as well...
  9. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    LOL no no no i use firefox, IE sucks. Im just saying for purpose of updating windows.

    Yes my copy is legal, and I activated it, the problem is that the validation program is a active x control and IE is not letting it install. all firewalls are off, windows and trend micro. security settings are set to allow active x but still nothing it keep getting blocked.

    And are those old threads in this section or a diff one?

    edit:

    I took ownership of the files and all is good now. Still cant update windows, :(
  10. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Ok well i finally figured out what the problem was, well i knew what the problem was but i fixed it.

    IE was not letting a unsigned active x control install (I use firefox, IE for windows update), this contol validates your windows so you can recieve updates (why it wouldnt be signed is unknown to me).

    In your internet options there is a security tab, under custom level, you can enable active x, unable this, but thats not it. That just lets signed active x install. Now goto the advanced tab, scroll all the way to security, the third box down (allow unsigned software to install...), check this and then restart IE. Now your all good.

    Did'nt know if anyone else has this problem but if you do there you go.

    Also what are some cool benchmarks I can run on my new computer?
  11. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    benchmarks? i'll tell you what i'd do with that rig...

    set farcry up with the highest possible graphics resolutions and effects and play it. the results should be awesome, given said game's graphical nature.
     
  12. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    heh I already did that. Its awesome! I was just talking about benchmarks that give scores that I could post :)
  13. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

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