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New PC build

By VitalyT
Jul 9, 2013
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  1. Just ordered a new desktop PC (parts from Amazon).
    Main PC use: VS2010, VS2012, VMW, occasional gaming in SC-2, Unreal 2007.
    Previous purchase: Monitor DELL U3014.


    CASE: Corsair Obsidian Series 550D
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006L6ZSWC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    PSU: Corsair HX850 Professional Series
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008O0RTFC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Mainboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D41V69Q/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    CPU: i7-4770K
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CV3E3XE/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i04?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Memory: 32GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-19200 2400MHz
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080GKCV8/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Video: NVidia GTX 780. Tried to get ASUS, but Amazon wouldn't deliver any of those to Ireland.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CY5GP26/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    SSD-s: 2 x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009LI7CTY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    HDD-s: 2 x Western Digital Caviar 3TB
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004RORMF6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Wireless: WNIC WIRELESS DUAL-BAND WIFI PCI-E
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009YCGHB6/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    It all came to about 2800 euro or $3600.

    It all should arrive within one week. Can't wait to get my hands on all the goodies. Also scared to think if anything comes DOA, particularly the memory. The rest should be fine :)

    I hope the choice of components is good. Any comments are welcome.
     
  2. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Damn son! That's a sweet rig.

    One question though. Why no aftermarket cooler?
     
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  3. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    That's a good question :) I was looking around to find one with good reviews for Haswell, but none came up. I am looking around for one right now. Any suggestions? I'm not looking to get too greedy on the account of CPU overclocking, but let's say, 4.5GHz should be achievable on such system with a good aftermarket cooler?

    P.S. I don't trust water-cooling systems, many start showing problems after a year of use, like corrosion.
     
  4. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    I think most 1155 coolers are compatible with Socket 1150.

    In which case, the Noctua NH-D14 would be my choice (the Noctua Site lists it as compatible with Haswell).
     
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  5. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    Get out, man, it's a laugh, I searched the net for the best cooler for 3 hours, and this is exactly what I bought just 30 minutes ago from here. :) :) :)
     
  6. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Hahaha great minds think alike :p
     
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  7. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,293   +547

  8. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    It's not about the cost, it is about reliability of the system and its data. I usually have the system on one SSD and all my projects and personal data on another. The system I'm retiring was the same, only I had Intel X25-M 160GB for the OS and same but 80GB for the other stuff. None ever showed any problem ever since purchased in late 2009.

    System SSD-s are a lot more likely to die than ones used for personal data. In my case a system SSD would be addressed at least 10 times more.
     
  9. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,058   +919

    This is not primarily a gaming machine like vitaly said. He is a developer, so this will be a workstation. He will most likely put the drives in raid 1 (what is your plan VitalyT?).

    Nice build overall man. I think you could have downgraded the gpu since sc2 is not that demanding. But after all, you are gonna be gaming at 2560x1440. Best of luck.
     
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  10. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586


    I did raid 1 configuration in my previous rig, and decided I will no longer be needed it. Samsung 840 Pro should perform roughly two times faster than Intel X25 I had, but even that one was so fast, I never wanted any more out of it. For things like Visual Studio 2010/2012 and VMW such SSD as Samsung 840 Pro is more than sufficient. I prefer using extra SSD just to keep system and personal data separate. It is more reliable and safer that way.

    As I noted before, I use DELL U3014, which is 2560x1600, so even in SC-2 I can appreciate perfect FPS at ultra settings. My other nostalgic favorite is Unreal 3. Both games can can put a good load on GPU in 2560x1600 at ultra settings, and GTX 780 is the right card to get good FPS out of both games.
     
  11. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

     
  12. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,243   +1,549

    lol
     
  13. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,058   +919

    Good catch.

    2560x1600 is even more demanding, so the 780 is a good choice. As for keeping files separate, that is a good move.
     
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  14. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,475   +624

    Nice build. :)

    Why did you choose Haswell over LGA2011? Slightly newer, etc?

    What are you doing with the 3TB platters?
     
  15. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586


    - Cheers!

    - New and shiny, yes :) Compared to 2011 it will eat much less energy, especially while in stand-by.

    - Porno :)
     
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  16. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,243   +1,549

    And 6TB is all you want? :eek:
     
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  17. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    No, I want more, but it will run out of space anyway...
     
  18. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,243   +1,549

    Ahh, the damned ole porn budget always getting in the way!

    BTW, thats is a very nice build. :D
     
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  19. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586


    - that's it...
    - cheers!
     
  20. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    An update, after I received all the hardware and put it all together....

    First of all, I couldn't get over the fact just how colossal the CPU cooler is, Noctua NH-D14, but then I couldn't believe just how great this thing really, it is one component worth spending on! It is so incredibly quiet, I can absolutely not hear the system, even if I open the side cover. This is the first power desktop I assembled that makes zero noise. And I didn't even think it was possible.

    The CPU was easy to set to 4.6GHz, no problems there, but then I ran into issues with something else, and for the sake of keeping everything in check I set it back to its nominal speed.

    At nominal speeds on all of the components the system rating is as shown below:

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    The only issue I ran into is with the WiFi card: Asus PCE-AC66 1300Mbps Wireless PCI-E Network Interface Card

    This card simply doesn't work. It has serious driver issues (under Win7 and Win8 both). I'm chasing it up with ASUS right now, and will later on try to over-clock the system once again and publish the updated rating here...
     
  21. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,058   +919

    WTF, isnt the highest score 9.9? Shouldnt you get at least a 9 xD.
     
  22. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586


    I understand the joke, but come-on, that's just for i7-4770K @ 3.5 GHz, I haven't rated it when it is @ 4.6 GHz yet :)

    It probably will reach 9.0. A higher score would be for the upcoming hexa-core Ivy Bridge Extreme and then Haswell Extreme. But even they should leave couple notches for dual-CPU workstations to top it all the way to 9.9 ;)

    I am already in trouble trying to put all that power to proper use. Everything I throw at is just flying without any slow down. I use VS2012, debugging app that's using local SQL2012 Express, plus have VMW running in the background, and I don't bother unloading any of those when switching over SC-2 on a break ;)

    One thing bothers me though. I switched off virtual memory, but the memory didn't go up after that, not by a tiny step. I got 32GB of fastest RAM, but even with all the load, I cannot see it go above 4GB. That's odd, I think. Looks like it is still caching stuff somewhere, wasting resources, and I was hoping to actually use the memory.
     
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  23. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,058   +919

    It should be using at least 8GB :confused:.

    As for the CPU score, the highest scores will come from Xeons, which are optimized for number crunching. The CPU score is determined by the speed of number crunching more than real world performance.

    It may be caching to the SSD rather than the RAM. I do not know why it would do that though.
     
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  24. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,475   +624

    Turn paging file back on, it's a myth that turning it off helps performance. Buy a 30GB SSD purely for page file if you're so worried.
     
  25. VitalyT

    VitalyT TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 1,971   +586

    I have plenty of space on my Samsung SSD 840 Pro, but I also have 32GB of DDR3-2400, just seems like a waste that I load up so many apps, but Windows 8 never tries to use more than 4GB.

    Switching the swap file off indeed had no effect at all. But then again, 60GB of a useless swap file is utterly pointless also, so I'm leaving it switched off.
     


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